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9/11

Postby Bob » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:08 pm

I wanted to post this on the 7th anniversary of September 11, 2001. Some of us have noted the similarities of the events of 9/11 and the events that were supposed to take place during Operation Northwoods. First, a special comment by Keith Olbermann about how the Republican party have blatently used this tragedy as their calling card...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/1 ... tember-11/

Finally, in case some of you aren't aware of Operation Northwoods, take a look at the plan below...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... woods.html

The neocons planned Operation Northwoods to start a war with Cuba, blaming Cuba for the fake attack. 9/11 was all about blaming Iraq about the tragedy. The Bu$h administration tried to place blame on Iraq about 9/11 over and over again. At one point, 85% the sheeple in the U.S.A. thought that Iraq was responsible for the attack. Thankfully, JFK stopped the neocons from going through with Operation Northwoods in 1962. But he would be dead a year or so later because he would not be part of their treasonous agenda.
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Re: 9/11

Postby nephew23 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:55 am

While I can 100% see the reason JFK was a threat to the "powers-that-be" and had to be taken out in order to continue their "world dominance," I cannot transfer that line of thinking to 9/11. Though I fully believe several factions of our government were behind the death of JFK, I will never believe those same groups blew up the WTC's and Pentagon. I have no doubt they may have exploited 9/11, and granted, I fully believe there were and are reasons and actions I don't agree with concerning the invasion of Iraq. But 3 results are indisputably positive ... Saddam Hussein is dead, many terrorists are dead, and Iraq is a democracy! The same thing for Afghanistan ... the people are free! Bin Laden may or may not be dead ... but terrorists have died or fled, and democracy is alive and well! These reasons alone make the war a worthy cause. Furthermore, they make 9/11 a worthy loss. Many people died, and that is tragic ... but many people are free tonight, and that is reason to celebrate. Spock said it best (among others, of course) ... "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few." Regardless of the true reality and behind-the-scenes ... people are free today that were a short time ago under the thumb of a ruthless dictator. The same could have been said for Cuba. Though Castro was not the world's worst dictator, he was still a dictator ... and he just happened to be cuddling up to enemy #1, 90 miles away from home. I don't think anyone would have lost a night's sleep if Castro had been taken out. However, many Cuban's would have lived this last half decade in freedom. We are America - the greatest country in the world - the protectors of freedom. It is our job to defend those who cannot defend themselves. As the Declaration declares ... "all men are created equally and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights ... among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." So maybe the defense budget gets more funds and some rich oil men or contractors get richer ... but a lot of bad people are dead and a lot of good people are free to pursue LIFE! You may say I'm an idiot, or this is all cliche, or what about the good people who die ... but without true freedom there will never be true peace. Dictatorships suppress freedom and are, by their very definition, restrictive ... meaning there is no true allowance for the pursuit of happiness. A democratic world is a free world. If I'm wrong then why do people continue to pour over our borders? Why have Cubans, for decades, braved the ocean and risked their lives to come to America? Why are the Immigration offices jammed and have years-long waits? FREEDOM! Anybody who disagrees, please feel free to be the first one to volunteer to move to Cuba, or China, or North Korea! Even if you were to go you likely wouldn't be welcome.

9/11 has been quite appropriately named Patriot's Day - as there were and have been many heroes who paid the ultimate price for their freedom and their country. Some of them did so unwittingly but many of them literally gave their lives so that others might have life. Their gift was not selfish, and by that I mean it was not meant to stop at the ocean. Their gift was for humanity ... for mankind ... for democracy ... for freedom ... and most importantly, for the countless lives in Iraq and Afghanastan and anywhere else, that will wake up tomorrow morning - FREE TO PURSUE LIFE!

Today, I celebrate the heroes of 9/11 and I thank them for their gift ... and I thank God for them!
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Re: 9/11

Postby Bob » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:05 pm

Let me first say that I also want to thank the heroes that valiantly tried to save lives on 9/11, like the police and firefighters in NYC, and also my heart goes out to all that died that day. But the war in Iraq is all about following the money, as "Deep Throat" once said during the Watergate affair. Some estimates have put the Iraqi dead at over 1,000,000 people because of this war, a war that is clearly now a religious civil war. The U.S. has lost over 4,000 brave lives in this stupid endeavor, while over 30,000 have been wounded, some severely. The war has cost the American taxpayers almost $1 TRILLION dollars, and the war has played a large part in the decaying U.S. economy. But why did this war REALLY happen? Paul O'Neill, who was Dumbya Bu$h's Secretary of the Treasury, said that Bu$h, Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to invade Iraq at the very FIRST cabinet meeting in early 2001. Then 9/11 happened. The U.S. than invaded Afghanistan where bin Laden and his forces were hiding out. The troops did a nice job there, taking control from the Taliban, but bin Laden slipped away. And NOW, all of the progress the U.S. made in Afghanistan is now gone, as the Taliban have regained control. Why? Because of the war in Iraq. Cheney and Rumsfeld tried to sell the American people that Iraq was involved in 9/11. So did Bu$h. Then they tried the WMD bullshit line. Then they tried the mushroom cloud threat. ALL bullshit. The war was for war profiteering and oil. Plain and simple. What private businesses were Bu$h and Cheney in before they stole an election and got in the White House? War profiteering and oil. Look who has profited from this war. Halliburton (Cheney's old company that got a no bid contract), Blackwater, General Dynamics, The Carlyle Group (Poppy Bu$h), Raytheon, Bechtel (Rumsfeld) and more have made enormous profits. There are now 160,000 troops in Iraq, but they are outnumbered by the 180,000 private contractors from companies like Halliburton and Blackwater. The Iraqi government recently gave additional no bid contracts to American oil interests like Exxon, BP, Shell and Cheron to to control much of the Iraqi oil. There is a time to fight for freedom, and the Iraq war was not one of the times. The war in Iraq was about GREED, not need.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Bob » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:12 pm

Here is a story from today that gives 21 reasons why the "official" story about what really happened on 9/11 should be questioned...

09/12/08

September 11, 2001: 21 Reasons to Question the Official Story about 9/11
David Ray Griffin



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Note: Although the points are stated briefly, I give in each case the pages in my most recent book---"The New Pearl Harbor Revisited"---where the issue is documented and discussed more extensively.

(1) Although the official account of 9/11 claims that Osama bin Laden ordered the attacks, the FBI does not list 9/11 as one of the terrorist acts for which he is wanted and has admitted that it "has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" (NPHR 206-11).

(2) Although the official story holds that the four airliners were hijacked by devout Muslims ready to die as martyrs to earn a heavenly reward, Mohamed Atta and the other alleged hijackers regularly drank heavily, went to strip clubs, and paid for sex (NPHR 153-55).

(3) Many people reported having received cell phone calls from loved ones or flight attendants on the airliners, during which they were told that Middle Eastern hijackers had taken over the planes. One recipient, Deena Burnett, was certain that her husband had called her several times on his cell phone because she had recognized his number on her Caller ID. But the calls to Burnett and most of the other reported calls were made when the planes were above 30,000 feet, and evidence presented by the 9/11 truth movement showed that, given the technology of the time, cell phone calls from high-altitude airliners had been impossible. By the time the FBI presented a report on phone calls from the planes at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui in 2006, it had changed its story, saying that there were only two cell phone calls from the flights, both from United 93 after it had descended to 5,000 feet (NPHR 111-17).

(4) US Solicitor General Ted Olson's claim that his wife, Barbara Olson, phoned him twice from AA 77, reporting that hijackers had taken it over, was also contradicted by this FBI report, which says that the only call attempted by her was "unconnected" and hence lasted "0 seconds" (NPRH 60-62).

(5) Although decisive evidence that al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks was reportedly found in Mohamed Atta's luggage---which allegedly failed to get loaded onto Flight 11 from a commuter flight that Atta took to Boston from Portland, Maine, that morning---this story was made up after the FBI's previous story had collapsed. According to that story, the evidence had been found in a Mitsubishi that Atta had left in the Logan Airport parking lot and the trip to Portland was taken by Adnan and Ameer Bukhari. After the FBI learned that neither of the Bukharis had died on September 11, it simply declared that the trip to Portland was made by Atta and another al-Qaeda operative (NPHR 155-62).

(6) The other types of reputed evidence for Muslim hijackers---such as videos of al-Qaeda operatives at airports, passports discovered at the crash sites, and a headband discovered at the crash site of United 93---also show clear signs of having been fabricated (NPHR 170-73).

(7) In addition to the absence of evidence for hijackers on the planes, there is also evidence of their absence: If hijackers had broken into the cockpits, the pilots would have "squawked" the universal hijack code, an act that takes only a couple of seconds. But not one of the eight pilots on the four airliners did this (NPHR 175-79).

(8) Given standard operating procedures between the FAA and the military, according to which planes showing signs of an in-flight emergency are normally intercepted within about 10 minutes, the military's failure to intercept any of the flights implies that something, such as a stand-down order, prevented standard procedures from being carried out (NPHR 1-10, 81-84).

(9) Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta reported an episode in which Vice President Cheney, while in the bunker under the White House, apparently confirmed a stand-down order at about 9:25 AM, which was prior to the strike on the Pentagon. Another man has reported hearing members of LAX Security learn that a stand-down order had come from the "highest level of the White House" (NPHR 94-96).

(10) The 9/11 Commission did not mention Mineta's report, removed it from the Commission's video record of its hearings, and claimed that Cheney did not enter the shelter conference room until almost 10:00, which was at least 40 minutes later than he was really there, according to Mineta and several other witnesses, including Cheney's photographer (NPHR 91-94).

(11) The 9/11 Commission's timeline for Cheney that morning even contradicted what Cheney himself had told Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" September 16, just five days after 9/11 (NPHR 93).

(12) Hani Hanjour, known as a terrible pilot who could not safely fly even a single-engine airplane, could not possibly have executed the amazing trajectory reportedly taken by American Flight 77 in order to hit Wedge 1 of the Pentagon (NPHR 78-80).

(13) Wedge 1 would have been the least likely part of the Pentagon to be targeted by foreign terrorists, for several reasons: It was as far as possible from the offices of Rumsfeld and the top brass, whom Muslim terrorists presumably would have wanted to kill; it was the only part of the Pentagon that had been reinforced; the reconstruction was not finished, so there were relatively few people there; and it was the only part of the Pentagon that would have presented obstacles to a plane's flight path (NPHR 76-78).

(14) Contrary to the claim of Pentagon officials that they did not have the Pentagon evacuated because they had no way of knowing that an aircraft was approaching, a military E-4B---the Air Force's most advanced communications, command, and control airplane---was flying over the White House at the time. Also, although there can be no doubt about the identity of the plane, which was captured on video by CNN and others, the military has denied that it belonged to them (NPHR 96-98).

(15) The Secret Service, after learning that a second World Trade Center building had been attacked---which would have meant that terrorists were going after high-value targets---and that still other planes had apparently been hijacked, allowed President Bush to remain at the school in Sarasota, Florida, for another 30 minutes. It thereby revealed its foreknowledge that Bush would not be a target: If these had really been surprise attacks, the agents, fearing that a hijacked airliner was bearing down on the school, would have hustled Bush away. On the first anniversary of 9/11, the White House started telling a new story, according to which Bush, rather than remaining in the classroom several minutes after Andrew Card whispered in his ear that a second WTC building had been hit, immediately got up and left the room. This lie was told in major newspapers and on MSNBC and ABC television (NPHR 129-31).

(16) Given the fact that the Twin Towers and WTC 7 had steel columns running from their basements to their roofs, they simply could not have come down as they did---straight down at virtually free-fall speed---unless these columns had been sliced by means of explosives. Therefore, the official theory, according to which the buildings came down because of fire plus (in the case of the Twin Towers) the impact of the planes, is scientifically impossible (NPHR 12-25).

(17) The destruction of the Twin Towers had many other features---such as the horizontal ejections of steel beams, the melting of steel, and the sulfidation and thinning of steel---that can be explained only in terms of powerful explosives. For example, the fires could not have come within 1000 degrees Fahrenheit of the temperature needed to melt steel (30-36).

(18) Members of the FDNY (Fire Department of New York) provided oral histories shortly after 9/11 in which one fourth of them testified to having witnessed explosions in the Twin Towers. Explosions in the WTC 7 as well as the towers were also reported by city officials, WTC employees, and journalists (NPHR 27-30, 45-48, 51).

(19) Mayor Rudy Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that day: "we set up headquarters at 75 Barclay Street . . . , and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse. And it [the South Tower] did collapse before we could actually get out of the building." However, there was no objective basis for expecting the towers to collapse; even the 9/11 Commission admitted that none of the fire chiefs expected them to come down. The FDNY oral histories show that the information that they were going to collapse came from the Office of Emergency Management---Giuliani's own office. How could Giuliani's people have known that the towers were going to come down, unless they knew that the buildings had been laced with explosives? (NPH 40)

(20) NIST, which produced the official reports on the Twin Towers and (recently) WTC 7, has been "fully hijacked from the scientific to the political realm," so that its scientists are little more than "hired guns," a former employee has reported, and the 9/11 Commission was no more independent, being run by Philip Zelikow, who was essentially a member of the Bush White House (NPHR 11, 238-51).

(21) The official story about 9/11 is now rejected by constantly growing numbers of physicists, chemists, architects, engineers, pilots, former military officers, and former intelligence officials (NPHR xi).
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Re: 9/11

Postby Bob » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm

I am posting an interesting film about the real causes of 9/11. But before I post this, remember this...Samuel Bu$h in WWI sold arms to the Germans while the U.S. was in that conflict. Prescott Bu$h was part of a conspiracy to overthrow FDR, that thankfully didn't take place.

http://polidics.com/current-administrat ... nment.html

But Bu$h did invest in and profit from a business alliance with the Hitler war machine. In fact, Bu$h was charged with trading with the enemy in 1942. Wim talks about a lot of this, and also the shady past of Poppy Bu$h and his involvement in the JFK assassiantion...

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

You must think about all of that and also Operation Northwoods. The neocons that wanted Operation Northwoods to take place included Prescott and Poppy Bu$h.

Take a look at this with an open mind...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=T ... mb=0&aq=f#
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Re: 9/11

Postby nephew23 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:05 pm

So basically one must choose to believe...

(1) terrorists are responsible for 9/11; regarless of which terrorists we killed, whether guilty terrorists or not-guilty terrorists, the world is better off without them breathing; 2 countries are now free; rich men got richer

OR

(2) our own government blew up 3 massive buildings, destroying a large part of New York City; blew up a portion of the Pentagon; shot down another airliner; killed thousands of its own citizens; manipulated the LIVE broadcasts on multiple stations AND hundreds, if not thousands of amateur videos; wrongly invaded Iraq and Afghanastan; wrongly allowed Iraq and Afghanastan to choose freedom and democracy; wrongly killed Saddam Hussein and thousands of terrorists; rich men got richer

I'll take #1. No one will ever convince me that the events of 9/11 were faked. If there were no airplanes, then where are all the missing passengers and planes? And 20,000+ gallons of jet fuel with an impact of 500-700mph ... how in the world can someone say that type of heat and fire doesn't have ability to melt steel? Has anybody ever done practice runs on that to make a statistical chart? I'm going to wager a guess ... NO! I'm guessing the other explosions were a result of floors collapsing from the extreme fire. That to me is logical ... not that we snuck in thousands upon thousands of pounds of explosives.

My point-of-view is ironic, of course, considering I fully believe JFK's death was a conspiracy. But he was one man ... and though he was the most powerful man in the Free World, he was still just one man. If everything is a conspiracy - JFK, moon landing, UFO's, 9/11, etc. - then about the only thing left is our own fighter jets "accidentally" dropping nuclear bombs. I bet that's coming!
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Re: 9/11

Postby Brian White » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:10 pm

So,nephew23, I imagine you'll be hitting the
recruiting office very soon now, won't you? :D
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Re: 9/11

Postby nephew23 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:34 pm

I would certainly fight for my country if it came to that! But no, not any time soon ... they wouldn't take me anyway ... too many health issues.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Rob Waters » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:55 pm

nephew23 wrote:While I can 100% see the reason JFK was a threat to the "powers-that-be" and had to be taken out in order to continue their "world dominance," I cannot transfer that line of thinking to 9/11. Though I fully believe several factions of our government were behind the death of JFK, I will never believe those same groups blew up the WTC's and Pentagon. I have no doubt they may have exploited 9/11, and granted, I fully believe there were and are reasons and actions I don't agree with concerning the invasion of Iraq. But 3 results are indisputably positive ... Saddam Hussein is dead, many terrorists are dead, and Iraq is a democracy! The same thing for Afghanistan ... the people are free! Bin Laden may or may not be dead ... but terrorists have died or fled, and democracy is alive and well! These reasons alone make the war a worthy cause. Furthermore, they make 9/11 a worthy loss. Many people died, and that is tragic ... but many people are free tonight, and that is reason to celebrate. Spock said it best (among others, of course) ... "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few." Regardless of the true reality and behind-the-scenes ... people are free today that were a short time ago under the thumb of a ruthless dictator. The same could have been said for Cuba. Though Castro was not the world's worst dictator, he was still a dictator ... and he just happened to be cuddling up to enemy #1, 90 miles away from home. I don't think anyone would have lost a night's sleep if Castro had been taken out. However, many Cuban's would have lived this last half decade in freedom. We are America - the greatest country in the world - the protectors of freedom. It is our job to defend those who cannot defend themselves. As the Declaration declares ... "all men are created equally and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights ... among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." So maybe the defense budget gets more funds and some rich oil men or contractors get richer ... but a lot of bad people are dead and a lot of good people are free to pursue LIFE! You may say I'm an idiot, or this is all cliche, or what about the good people who die ... but without true freedom there will never be true peace. Dictatorships suppress freedom and are, by their very definition, restrictive ... meaning there is no true allowance for the pursuit of happiness. A democratic world is a free world. If I'm wrong then why do people continue to pour over our borders? Why have Cubans, for decades, braved the ocean and risked their lives to come to America? Why are the Immigration offices jammed and have years-long waits? FREEDOM! Anybody who disagrees, please feel free to be the first one to volunteer to move to Cuba, or China, or North Korea! Even if you were to go you likely wouldn't be welcome.

9/11 has been quite appropriately named Patriot's Day - as there were and have been many heroes who paid the ultimate price for their freedom and their country. Some of them did so unwittingly but many of them literally gave their lives so that others might have life. Their gift was not selfish, and by that I mean it was not meant to stop at the ocean. Their gift was for humanity ... for mankind ... for democracy ... for freedom ... and most importantly, for the countless lives in Iraq and Afghanastan and anywhere else, that will wake up tomorrow morning - FREE TO PURSUE LIFE!

Today, I celebrate the heroes of 9/11 and I thank them for their gift ... and I thank God for them!


dude, look up and watch ripple effect. ill try to remember to send you the link when i get home. i guaruntee you will feel different about it.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Rob Waters » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:57 pm

this is something everyone should see if they havent already.

http://www.911rippleeffect.com/
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Re: 9/11

Postby Brian White » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:59 pm

Gee,that's too bad,isn't it? :mrgreen:

What do you mean,"if it came to that"? It already HAS
come to that,hasn't it? The war's in progress right now-
more are coming up. (Iran,Russia).

Here's hoping you get those "health issues" cleared up,
so we can get you in a uniform ASAP. :)
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Re: 9/11

Postby nephew23 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:20 pm

So that's your solution for anybody who is not anti-Bush and thinks its okay to kill a terrorist ... get in a uniform? Like I said ... it would be an honor ... but me being in uniform doesn't magically alter the debate.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Bob » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:23 pm

nephew23, I too had a solid belief in our government, even when I realized the JFK AND RFK assassinations were conspiracies. In fact, before Wim opened my eyes about the Bu$h family, I always thought that they were a "patriotic" family. I have done a LOT of research since then, not just about the JFK assassination, but in other facets of our government. This isn't about Democrat vs. Republican, or liberal vs. conservative. It's about an ideology that is about deceiving the American public (the world for that matter), and taking us to a form of fascism. I don't trust the U.S. government at all anymore, especially after all the lies that Dumbya Bu$h administration have told over the last 8 years.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Bob » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:36 pm

Speaking of Operation Northwoods, this is an interesting paragraph from Dynasty of Death, a great article that chronicles the Bu$h family's treasonous history...

On March 13, 1962, the Northwoods document was brought to Kennedy's attention. The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Allen Dulles had drawn up a plan to launch a series of terrorist attacks within the United States, combined with a media blitz blaming Cuba for the attacks. They believed this would frighten the American public into overwhelmingly supporting a second invasion of Cuba. The Northwoods plan called for Pentagon and CIA paramilitary forces to sink ships, hijack airliners and bomb buildings. When Kennedy heard of their plan, he was furious. The corrupt military industrial power structure within the American government knew no bounds, not even the lives of their own countrymen mattered in their quest for power and profit. Kennedy removed CIA director Allen Dulles, deputy director Richard Bissell and General Lyman Lemnitzer, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for their parts in the plan. Within weeks Prescott Bush who had close dealings with these individuals, chose to retire prematurely from politics for supposed health reasons.

For you that haven't seen the entire article, here it is...

'Dynasty of Death'
Schuyler Ebbets


There is no historic parallel that can be drawn, nothing compares with the accomplishments of the Bush family. No dictator or tyrant can equal the suffering and destruction they have wrought on humanity, as they are not mere tyrants themselves, but the makers and breakers of tyrants, the organizers and profiteers of war and death. They are not alone and solely responsible for creating the present day military industrial complex, however since 1915 the Bush family has been directly involved in World War One and Two, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, numerous CIA secret wars, the Gulf War, and now a “Never Ending War”. The past four generations of this one family have had a hand in promoting and profiting from most of major wars that America has waged since the beginning of the industrialized age.

The nightmare for the world began in 1915, with the establishment of an unholy partnership between the U.S. Government and the ‘War Industries Board', for-runner of America's present day 'military-industrial complex'. Some of those seated on the board of directors were Samuel P. Bush, great grandfather of George W. Bush, and so-called chief of Ordnance for the Small Arms and Ammunition Section, Wall Street banker Clarence Dillon, Samuel Pryor, executive committee chairman of Remington Arms, and Bernard Baruch, who, as head of the War Industries Board profited in excess of $200,000,000.

The members of the Board aptly came to be known as the "Merchants of Death." Using the facade of government to legitimize their operations, the War Industries Board represented the big munitions makers of the day who dispatched agents around the globe to sell the weapons and materials of war to both sides of any conflict. They bribed government officials and used their corporate influence and capitol to increase international tensions, which in turn generated demand and maximized profit.

It was during the First World War that Samuel P. Bush and the other board members amassed fortunes selling the weapons and materials of war not only to America but also to Germany. Most of the records and correspondence pertaining to Samuel P. Bush's activities on the War Industries Board were later burned mysteriously, "to save space" in the National Archives. When their business venture officially ended on November 11, 1918, some 37,508,686 human beings had been killed. It set a dangerous precedent for the destiny of America and the destiny of civilization itself. A small group of corporate manufactures, bankers, and industrialists had formulated a devilishly effective method by which profit is extracted from human suffering, war, and death, and their dark technique would be repeated and refined.

In 1922 while George Walker, was president at W. A. Harriman & Co, Averell Harriman went to Berlin to set up a branch bank for the company. While in Berlin Averell Harriman met with Fritz Thyssen, prime sponsor of the German politician Adolph Hitler. It was at that time that preliminary arrangements were made to establish a bank for Thyssen in New York. Two years later, in 1924, W. A. Harriman & Co. formally began the Union Banking Corporation in Manhattan, chiefly to handle German funds supplied through the Thyssen-owned Nazi front Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart (BHS), in the Netherlands, for the mass purchase of American commodities. The W. A. Harriman & Co executives labeled these dealing as the "Hitler Project".

On May 1st 1926 Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush, close friend of Bunny Harriman and fellow Bonesmen from their Yale class of 1917 joined W. A. Harriman & Co. as its vice president under the bank's president and his father-in-law George Walker. In that same year an associate of Prescott Bush's father, Samuel P. Bush, and “Merchants of Death” board member Clarence Dillon, acquired $70 million dollars from Fritz Thyssen to set up a massive organization named the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation, or the German Steel Trust). This would become Germany's largest industrial corporation.

Although Thyssen's accounts were run through the Walker-Bush organization and the German Steel Trust did its corporate banking separately through Dillon Read Company, U.S. government investigations revealed that Bush's Nazi-front bank had actually worked directly with Fritz Thyssen’s United Steel Works Corporation which had produced; 50.8% of Nazi Germany's pig iron, 41.4% of Nazi Germany's universal plate, 36.0% of Nazi Germany's heavy plate, 38.5% of Nazi Germany's galvanized sheet metal, 45.5% of Nazi Germany's pipes and tubes, 22.1% of Nazi Germany's wire, and 35.0% of Nazi Germany's explosives.

On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of all banking operations being carried out by Prescott Bush for the Nazis, under the Trading with the Enemy Act, however by that time he and the other associates at W.A. Harriman & Co. had already made their fortunes financing and arming Adolph Hitler. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government was able to take over Union Banking Corporation, and The U.S. Alien Property Custodian, seized the Union Banking Corporation stock owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland Harriman, and his associates until the war ended. Prescott Bush eventually sold his holding in Union Banking Corporation for $1,500,000.

Although the “Hitler Project” had resulted in a second world war and 62,537,400 human beings had been killed, Harriman and Bush and the other Bonesmen in Union Banking Corporation were never prosecuted for helping Adolph Hitler, and their identities were never publicized by the media. During his vice presidency with Union Banking, Prescott Bush had shrewdly hired lawyers, Allen and John Foster Dulles, international attorneys for many Nazi enterprises, to represent him and Fritz Thyssen. Sons of wealthy influential families, the Dulles brothers had also worked with the War Industries Board beginning their lucrative careers along side Samuel P. Bush and the other, ‘Merchants of Death’.

In 1950, President Truman charged International attorney John Foster Dulles with the task of concluding a peace treaty with Japan. Before the treaty was signed on September 8, 1951, Dulles used his position to lay the seeds for yet another profitable war by advising South Korean president Rhee that, “if he was ready to attack the communist North, the U.S. would lend help.” South Korea immediately launched a series vicious cross boarder attacks to provoke the North into war. For the benefit of North Korea, ''U.S. Secretary of State Dean Acheson (close friend of Harriman) publicly stated that South Korea would not be defended if attacked. This was seen by North Korea as an America approval for whatever actions they decided to take to defend themselves. On June 25, 1950, eight divisions and one armored brigade, (90,000 soldiers) of the North Korean People's Army attacked in three columns across the 38th parallel invading the Republic of Korea. Not surprisingly, Acheson had lied and on June 27, President Truman ordered U.S. forces into Korea.

Harriman couldn't resist the lure and the profit of the death game. In September of 1951, using his considerable political influence, Harriman had himself appointed to serve as President Truman's Mutual Security Agency director, which also made him the U.S. chief of the Anglo-American military alliance and an adviser, to “oversee national security affairs”. His business partner, Robert Lovett, became Assistant Secretary of Defense. It seemed as though things were developing into yet another profitable war coupled with the spoils of victory. The American military had easily conquered Seoul and the North Korean capital Pyongyang.

On Oct. 26 the Chinese army under the command of Mao Tse Tung, put an abrupt end to the scheme. Entering the war with 300,000 men, China beat the U.S. back to the 39th parallel. By the time of the Armistice negotiations of 1953, North and South Korea, and China combined had suffered a total of 3,822,000 casualties mostly from U. S. aerial bombing, but America had lost 54,000 service men and women and was dealt a crushing defeat. General Omar Bradley described the entire debacle as "The wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time and with the wrong enemy." But it was never the wrong war for the merchants of death and the Bonesmen, as war made big money.

Financing his campaign with Union Banking blood money Prescott Bush became elected as Republican Senator from Connecticut In1952. In 1953 President Dwight Eisenhower appointed John Foster Dulles as his secretary of state and Allen Dulles, became director of the CIA. It would be the beginning of a glorious era of war and profit. Alan Dulles immediately pursued a policy of aggression and strength toward the Soviet Union and China, officially initiating the ‘Cold War’, and the largest military industrial buildup in American history.

Prescott Bush knew there would never be a better time to bring his son, George Herbert Walker Bush, father of George W. bush, into the fold of a new and emerging military industrial power structure. After Young George had followed in his father’s footsteps through Yale and into the Skull and Bones society, Allen Dulles welcomed him into the CIA, and John Foster Dulles acted as his friend and mentor among the right wing power elite.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower was under no allusion about the ominous changes being brought about by men like Prescott Bush, Averell Harriman, the Dulles brothers and many others. During his Farewell Address to the Nation January 17, 1961, Eisenhower tried to warn the American people saying: "We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions…we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted”.

On January 20, 1961, John F. Kennedy officially took office as President of the United States. During his brilliant state of the union address Kennedy said, "The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life.” And Kennedy clarified his position by stating his, “unwillingness to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed”.

Before Eisenhower left office he allowed the appropriation of $46,000,000 dollars to pay for a CIA scheme to invade Cuba at the Bay of Pigs. When Kennedy was told about the plan he voiced serious doubts, but he didn’t want to be seen as soft on communism and his advisers convinced him that Castro was an unpopular leader with the Cuban people. Dulles and others in the CIA theorized-fantasized that the Cuban citizens would hear of the attack and help the CIA trained Cuban exiles to overthrow Castro. Kennedy decided the plan's requirement of 16 U.S. Navy planes was too obvious and would reveal American military involvement. He cut the number down to six. As the date of the invasion neared, Kennedy had second thoughts and decided against the plan altogether. At a press conference on April 12, five days before the invasion President Kennedy was asked if the U.S. government was making preparations to stage an uprising in Cuba. The President answered; "First, I want to say that there will not be, under any conditions, an intervention in Cuba by the United States Armed Forces. This government will do everything it possibly can, I think it can meet its responsibilities, to make sure that there are no Americans involved in any actions inside Cuba… The basic issue in Cuba is not one between the United States and Cuba. It is between the Cubans themselves.”

Allen Dulles, ignored the warning contained within Kennedy’s announcement and on April 12, 1961 proceeded with attack preparations, giving the order to CIA official Fletcher Prouty to make the delivery of three ships to then CIA agent George Bush for use in the invasion. Bush christened the ships the Barbara, the Houston, and the Zapata - after his oil company that later flopped. Bush had spent 1960 and '61 recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles in Miami for the invasion. He was living in Texas with his wife Barbara and flying from Houston to Miami weekly. It was during this time that Bush met Felix Rodriguez, the CIA operative who had hunted down and murdered Che Guevara. Bush and Rodriguez spent nearly two years working closely with the right wing Cuban community building their hopes and trust, and training them as marksman for the invasion.

On April 14, 1961 a total of five merchant ships carrying a paramilitary force of 1,400 Cuban exiles arrived at the Bay of Pigs, Cuba. The landing and subsequent battle went badly from the start. Two of the ships were sunk including the ship carrying most of the equipment and supplies. Two of the planes that were attempting to provide air cover were shot down. The CIA requested that Kennedy immediately call in more planes and military reinforcements, but Kennedy would not allow America to be manipulated into a conflict with Cuba and a potential war with Russia. Within seventy-two hours the ‘Bay of Pigs’ invasion had ended in tragic defeat. Instead of fueling the conflict into a raging inferno, which threatened to engulf the world, Kennedy had allowed the flames of war to flicker and die. The CIA and others in the extremist ‘right’ were bitterly angry with Kennedy for his refusal to provide air cover. The CIA had lost 15 men; another 1100 of their faithful Cuban exiles were captured. All those whom young George H. Bush had inspired to arms with his words, all those who had believed in him, trusted him, and befriended him were gone - imprisoned or killed. From that day forward, there was a bitter hatred for the imagined betrayal by Kennedy.

When John F. Kennedy inherited the responsibility of the presidency he also inherited the wars that banking and the military industrial complex were heavilyeld, Diem would lose and Vietnam would become a unified country. France and America would loose their slave colony and the profitable Vietnam War venture would end. The Dulles brothers urged Eisenhower to intervene militarily, and invade Vietnam, but Eisenhower refused.

The potential for arms production profits from an Asian country divided by civil war were staggering, particularly if the war could be made to last twenty years or more. Allen Dulles acting independently from President Eisenhower, with the support of Clarence Dillon's son Douglas, Averell Harriman, Prescott Bush and many others sent 675 covert military operatives into Vietnam headed by Air Force officer Edward Lansdale. Their mission was to help Diem stop fair and democratic elections and to prevent the establishment of a united Vietnam. The National Security Council's planning board assured Diem that if hostilities resulted, United States' armed forces would help him oppose the North Vietnamese. With the backing of America, the dictatorial Diem claimed that his government had never signed the Geneva Agreements and was not bound by them, and he promptly cancelled the elections. In 1958 Civil War started, and within two years guerrilla war erupted throughout Southern Vietnam. Diem asked Washington for assistance which resulted in yet another profitable war for America's military industrialists.

Dean Rusk (Secretary of State) and Robert McNamara (Secretary of Defense) hounded Kennedy into sending 10,000 Special Forces troops to Vietnam between 1961 and 1962. Kennedy was privately and publicly against the Vietnam War created by the military industrial complex. He didn't buy into their manufactured propaganda about the worldwide communist menace. Kennedy said, "I can not justify sending American boys half-way around the world to fight communism when it exists just south of Florida in Cuba." Kennedy stressed that Diem needed to win the hearts and minds of his people in the struggle against communism. Kennedy said, "I don't think that unless a greater effort is made by the Government to win the popular support that the war can be won out there. In the final analysis, it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it". Kennedy knew that only with all of the South Vietnamese people fully behind him could Diem hope to defeat the North.

Diem ignored Kennedy's advice and behaved like a dictator and his heavy-handed tactics continuously eroded the support of his people. America's ten thousand soldiers and a constant rain of bombs proved to be inconsequential in the effort to suppress the Vietnamese population. Allen Dulles, Dean Rusk, and Robert McNamara kept the truth about the deteriorating Vietnam situation hidden from Kennedy. The military industrial power structure surrounding Kennedy would only say that the war was going exactly as planned, that the Vietnamese people were being liberated, and that they liked Prime Minister Diem. Kennedy had reasons to doubt their word, as he had caught Allen Dulles covertly attempting to train a second group of Cuban exiles for another Cuban invasion. Kennedy had sent FBI agents in to destroy Dulles's training camps and confiscate the weapons, letting the matter end there.

Kennedy no longer trusted the Dulles brothers, Rusk, McNamara or Dean Acheson, his so-called Democratic foreign policy advisor, or for that matter, most of the people in the corrupt government he had inherited. Kennedy decided that he needed to monitor the Vietnam War and the men conducting it more closely. He formed a panel, appointing Allen Dulles and others to keep him apprised on a constant basis as to the status of the war.

On March 13, 1962, the Northwoods document was brought to Kennedy's attention. The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Allen Dulles had drawn up a plan to launch a series of terrorist attacks within the United States, combined with a media blitz blaming Cuba for the attacks. They believed this would frighten the American public into overwhelmingly supporting a second invasion of Cuba. The Northwoods plan called for Pentagon and CIA paramilitary forces to sink ships, hijack airliners and bomb buildings. When Kennedy heard of their plan, he was furious. The corrupt military industrial power structure within the American government knew no bounds, not even the lives of their own countrymen mattered in their quest for power and profit. Kennedy removed CIA director Allen Dulles, deputy director Richard Bissell and General Lyman Lemnitzer, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for their parts in the plan. Within weeks Prescott Bush who had close dealings with these individuals, chose to retire prematurely from politics for supposed health reasons.

Kennedy realized that the CIA was a focal point of corporate war planning, from which emanated a secret agenda that threatened the security and freedom of the American people. He said, "I will shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds". Kennedy intended to do battle with a terrible evil and take America back from the military industrial complex and those who financed it. He began by founding a panel that would investigate the CIA's numerous crimes. He put a damper on the breadth and scope of the CIA, limiting their ability to act under National Security Memorandum 55.

With the CIA temporarily under control he turned his attention to the task of gathering real information on the war by sending McNamara and Taylor- an aide he trusted, to Vietnam. Based on their memo entitled, Report of McNamara-Taylor Mission to South Vietnam, Kennedy decided that America needed to withdraw immediately from the unwinnable and immoral Vietnam War. Kennedy personally helped draft the final version of a report wherein it stated; "The Defense Department should announce in the very near future presently prepared plans to withdraw 1000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963." Kennedy soon issued National Security Action Memorandum 263, and forty pages in the Gravel Pentagon Papers that were devoted to the withdrawal plan. With this new Memorandum Kennedy began to implement the removal of U.S. forces from Vietnam.

Many individuals in the U.S. government were CFR members, an organization that was openly pushing the Vietnam War, and these same people had close ties to the privately owned Federal Reserve banking system, a chief financial promoter and profiteer of war. Kennedy intended to stop the Vietnam War and all future wars waged for profit by America. He intended to regain control of the American people's government and their country by cutting off the military industrial complex and Federal Reserve banking system's money supply.

Kennedy launched his brilliant attack using the Constitution, which states "Congress shall have the Power to Coin Money and Regulate the Value." Kennedy stopped the Federal Reserve banking system from printing money and lending it to the government at interest by signing Executive Order 11,110 on June 4, 1963. The order called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 (4.3 trillion) in United States Notes through the U.S. treasury rather than the Federal Reserve banking system. He also signed a bill backing the one and two-dollar bills with gold which added strength to the new government issued currency. Kennedy's comptroller James J. Saxon, encouraged broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. He also encouraged these non-Fed banks to deal directly with and underwrite state and local financial institutions. By taking the capital investments away from the Federal Reserve banks, Kennedy would break them up and destroy them.

It was at this time that the corrupt politicos and CFR members, representatives of organizations who stood to profit most from the Vietnam War and loose the most from the Federal Reserve deconstruction, revealed themselves publicly as a group against President Kennedy. They were all considered the pillars of right wing American establishment and their protests and accusations became more bellicose after initial troop withdrawal plans were announced on November 16, 1963. The Council on Foreign Relations, the Morgan and Rockefeller interests and the CIA had been extensively intertwined for years in promoting the Vietnam War and other wars, and their motives were the same.

Kennedy was facing the fight of his young life against a group of wealthy powerful bankers and industrialists who had their representatives deeply implanted within American Government and business. The names of some of these people and the organizations they represented were:

• Nelson Rockefeller - New York Governor
• David Rockefeller - Chase Manhattan Bank president, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission
• Douglas Dillon - Kennedy's Treasury Secretary and CFR member
• The Wall Street Journal
• Fortune Magazine editor Charles J. V. Murphy
• Dean Rusk - Secretary of State and Iron Mountain panel member
• Robert McNamara - Secretary of Defense until 1968, and later President of the World Bank (an adjunct of the United Nations and CFR)
• McGeorge Bundy - National Security Advisor and Iron Mountain panel member
• William Bundy - editor of the CFR's Foreign Affairs
• Averill Harriman - director of the Mutual Security Agency, and chief of the Anglo-American military alliance.
• Henry Cabot Lodge - U.S. Ambassador to Saigon
• The Joint Chiefs of Staff
• John J. McCloy - Assistant Secretary of War (WWII) and Kennedy advisor
• Cyrus Vance - Secretary of the Army
• Walt Rostow - State Department's Policy Planning Council and LBJ's National Security Advisor
• Dean Acheson - Truman Secretary of State and Democratic foreign policy advisor

Prime Minister Diem was loosing control of South Vietnam and growing impatient with the American war. He had begun negotiations with Ho Chi Minh, leader of the North, which unlike the Vietnamese election could not be prevented or rigged. A potential unification might occur quickly. The Vietnam War moneymaking engine was in grave danger from both the actions of Diem and Kennedy. The military industrial complex had their cadre Henry Cabot Lodge conveniently positioned within the US State Department and the Kennedy administration as a Vietnam War advisor and U.S. Ambassador to Saigon. Lodge made secret arrangements with CIA operatives in Vietnam to have Diem assassinated on November 2, 1963. Kennedy had not authorized such an order and after Diem's assassination he immediately instituted an investigation to find out who was responsible.

Ten days later on November 12, 1963 Kennedy publicly stated, in a speech delivered to hundreds of students and teachers at Columbia University; "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American people's freedom, and before I leave office, I must inform the citizens of this plight."

Eight days later on November 20, 1963 Vietnam War advisor Walt Whitman Rostow was somehow granted a personal meeting with Kennedy to attempt to sell him on the Vietnam War with a plan he called "a well-reasoned case for a gradual escalation". Kennedy had already rejected a similar plan to escalate the war in 1961, he had publicly announced his own plan of withdrawal from the war, but the corrupt power structure wouldn't accept it. The meeting was Kennedy's last chance. Two days after rejecting Rostow's transparent plan for war, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who alone had dared to stand against the military industrial complex and the Federal Reserve banking system, was murdered in Dallas, Texas at 12:30 p.m. CST on November 22, 1963, in a bloody "coup d'état".

On that day America ceased to be a democracy of, by, and for the people. From that day forward the leaders of the American government have only been the willing puppets of corporations and an international banking cartel that profits from war.

The day after Kennedy's brutal murder, the 23rd of November 1963, CIA director John McCone personally delivered the pre-prepared National Security Memorandum #278 to the White House. The handlers of newly installed President Lyndon B. Johnson needed to modify the policy lines of peace pursued by Kennedy. Classified document #278, reversed John Kennedy's decision to de-escalate the war in Vietnam by negating Security Action Memorandum 263, and the Gravel Pentagon Papers. The issuance of Memorandum 278 gave the Central Intelligence Agency immediate funding and approval to sharply escalate the Vietnam conflict into a full-scale war.

On November 29, 1963 Johnson created the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States. Publicly he directed the Commission to evaluate all the facts and circumstances surrounding the assassination and the subsequent killing of the alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. It had been prearranged among members of the commission, those with connections to the industrial and banking cartel, that there would only be one conclusion, Oswald must be seen as the lone assassin. Incredibly, Allen Dulles, the man who hated Kennedy for not backing his Bay of Pigs fiasco, and for stopping his Northwoods plan, and dismissing him as head of the CIA, was appointed to the Warren commission to preview all evidence gathered by the CIA and FBI and determine what the other commission members would be allowed to see!

Some of the information that Dulles may have prevented the other commission members from seeing was a couple of internal FBI memos from J. Edgar Hoover’s office, which raise far more questions than they answer. The first memo dated 1:45 PM November 22, (an hour and fifteen minutes after Kennedy’s murder) states that: “Mr. GEORGE H.W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas. (approximately 90 miles from Dallas where Kennedy was murdered, a fast one hour drive) BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential, but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.”

The other memo states that: “An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination. The substance of the following information was orally furnished by George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963" (the day after Kennedy’s Murder)

George H.W. Bush made his temporary exit from the CIA, soon after the Kennedy murder, and in 1964 ran as a Goldwater Republican for Congress, campaigning against the 'Civil Rights Act' and the 'Nuclear Test Ban Treaty'. He stated in his campaign speeches that America should arm Cuban exiles and aid them in the overthrow of Castro. He denounced the United Nations and said the Democrats were "too soft" on Vietnam. He recommended that South Vietnam be given nuclear weapons to use against North Vietnam. Although Bush had powerful backers like, 'Oil Men for Bush', who agreed with his apocalyptic visions, the American voters were not yet ready for Bush's brand of fascist extremism and he lost the election.

In 1966 Bush ventured forth again as a political candidate, toning down the apocalyptic rhetoric. He ran as a moderate Republican and was elected to the first of two terms in the House of Representatives from the 7th District of Texas. In 1970 Bush lost a Senate race to Lloyd Bentsen. It was not the end of his political career, but rather the redirection of it. A recognized soldier among the corporate military industrial elite, he was destined for a position of power when the time was right and when America had been dragged far enough to the right. In the interim, his wealthy friends kept him busy working behind the scenes in a number of appointments: UN Ambassador for Nixon in 1971, GOP national chair in 1973, and special envoy to China in 1974.

On January 27, 1973, in spite of American saturation bombings during the peace talks, the United States, North Vietnam, South Vietnam and the National Liberation Front's provisional revolutionary government signed a peace agreement. The treaty stipulated the immediate end of hostilities and the withdrawal of U.S. and allied troops. The US involvement in the Vietnam 'slaughter for profit war' had lasted 25 years and resulted in 3,000,000 Vietnamese and 58,000 Americans killed. $570 billion taxpayer dollars were consumed in the war, generating obscene profits for the Federal Reserve banking system and the military industrial complex.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Dealey Joe » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:26 am

Bob Fox leads us on another powerful fact filled
discussion about 09.11.2001, and obvious parallels
to JFK Event.


Bob is joined in this discussion with some great
contributors who provide mind boggling information
THAT IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE ON THE MAIN
STREAM MEDIA.


Freedom of the Press and Freedom speech, OR
Government Controlled Press and Speech ?


What are your thoughts today ?
If you ask the wrong questions the answer does not matter!
then if you control the questions being asked the answer still does not matter!
To continue doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is "Insane"
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