Why was JFK Murdered?

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Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Bob » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:09 pm

Here is another story about why perhaps John Fitzgerald Kennedy was killed in Dallas on 11/22/1963...

07/19/08

Why Was JFK Murdered?
William Hughes


“Which forces are in control, the public or shadow powers?” - Peter Dale Scott, author, essayist and poet.

What made John Fitzgerald Kennedy (JFK) such a threat to the “Shadow Government” that he had to be murdered? To begin with, he was an “American” in the finest sense of that word; a student of history and of the classics; and a lover of the Republic. JFK represented the best of the post-WWII generation. He put the U.S. first in all things, particularly in the area of foreign policy. JFK, unlike that insufferable blockhead currently occupying the White House, was a man of vision, too. He said that we can “put a man on the moon,” and we did. But, there is much more.

JFK had within his reach the financial resources to get elected, and more than enough money and influence to build a solid political machine to assure himself two terms in office, if he had lived. In comparison, look at “Bubba Bill” Clinton. He had little or no money of his own when the Wire Pullers “anointed” him to be the presidential standard bearer for the Democratic Party, in the 1992 election. This meant he was totally “dependent” on others to get himself elected. And, after he won, it also meant that the former Arkansas governor “owed” the people who put him in office. Whereas, JFK wasn’t beholding to the cunning Wire Pullers. He was a free agent. JFK could stand aloof from those contrivers. He didn’t need them.

JFK was a free agent. Here’s why: His dad, Joe Kennedy, Sr., had fairly deep pockets, and plenty of rich cronies, too, who could pitch in to help get his son elected, in 1960. In addition, JFK had a natural built in electoral constituency--a voting block--who favored his candidacy. He was an intellectual, of Irish descent, Roman Catholic, young and a WWII Veteran, to boot, possessing a hero-like image. And, for the most part, large segments of the African-American community felt a special kinship with him. The women loved him also. He was charming and better looking than most Hollywood stars of that era. Many, too, in the rank and file of the then feisty Labor Movement were attracted to and inspired by his candidacy for the Oval Office. The bosses of the Union Movement, with some notable exceptions, like Jimmy Hoffa, were inclined to give JFK the benefit of the doubt.

For all of the above reasons, JFK was a threat to the Shadow Government. (1) After he was elected, he alarmed them further by showing a strong streak of independent thinking! He consistently put America’s interests first. This is what gave the members of the sinister cabal the idea to kill him and to make sure that the official inquiry about the “Crime of the Century” was subjected to a first class cover-up, which is officially labeled, “The Warren Commission.” (2)

This takes me to Jim Marrs. He is one of our country’s finest crime and investigative reporters. He is also a top-notch author. (3) In his latest book: “The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America,” he sets out his speculations about why JFK was eliminated. Marrs writes, at p. 221: “By mid-1963, Kennedy was beginning to exert his autonomous influence over the most powerful--and violent--groups in U.S. society. He was threatening to disband the CIA...withdraw U.S. troops from South Vietnam, close the tax breaks of the oil-depletion allowances; tighten control over the tax-free foreign assets of U.S. multinational corporations...and decrease the power of both Wall Street and the Federal Reserve System. In June, 1963, Kennedy ordered the printing and release of $4.2 billion in United States notes, paper money issued through the Treasury Department ‘without paying interest’ to the Federal Reserve System, which is composed of twelve regional banks all controlled by ‘private banks’ whose owners often are ‘non-Americans.’”

Marrs added: “Obviously persons affected by these moves [of JFK] felt something had to be done.” Marrs also reports, when speaking of the slaying of JFK, that one conspiracy expert said: “It had to happen. The man was ‘too independent’ for his own good.”

To top all of that off, JFK also opposed Israel’s nuclear weapons scheme. Author Stephen Green tells us that not long after that Texas politico, Lyndon B. Johnson, succeeded to the presidency, JFK’s policy towards that controversial Nuke-producing project was reversed. Green put it this way in his book, LBJ “saw no Dimona [Israel’s Los Alamos], heard no Dimona, and spoke no Dimona when the reactor went critical in 1964.” (4)

Peter Dale Scott in his tome, “Deep Politics and the Death of JFK,” insisted that JFK clearly wanted a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam, whether military conditions on the ground allowed it or not. On Oct. 11, 1963, JFK issued “NSAM 263” to that effect. LBJ reversed that directive, too, with “NSAM 273.” Of all people, Noam Chomsky, attempted to disparage JFK’s intention with respect to getting out of Vietnam. Why? In the process, Chomsky ended up supporting the position of Leslie Gelb, who earlier was a Pentagon bureaucrat. What happened to Gelb? Oh, he later became President of the Council on Foreign Relations. Like the hawkish Neocons, he promoted a preemptive attack on Iraq, in March, 2003. (5) Author Scott took Chomsky to task for his flawed analysis by saying that his theory on JFK’s intentions “assumes the continuity of a mind-set that he is trying to prove.”

To further support his position, Scott, re: JFK and withdrawing from Vietnam, offers the fact that Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon Papers fame, a courageous truth teller, had heard from his then Pentagon boss, John McNaughton, in 1964, that Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense, and JFK, had an agreement that they would close out Vietnam by 1965, “whether it was in good shape or bad.” It’s also important to consider, with respect to this dispute, the views of James K. Galbraith. His scholarly and insightful interpretation of JFK’s actions, and “NSAM 263,” which backs up author Scott, are found in the “Boston Review,” entitled, “Exit Strategy.” (6)

As you can see, JFK made plenty of powerful enemies during his presidency of 1,000 days over a whole array of issues. One can only ponder why he was “really” killed. The Shadow Government, I suspect, ordered his death and then made sure that its tracks were covered-up. Who is in this secret cabal and exactly why it decided to mark JFK for death, remains a deep mystery. It is going to be for the next generation of American patriots to solve the case of JFK’s murder. Hopefully, they can bring out the full truth about that loathsome crime, and if possible, punish all the vicious evil doers involved.

I leave the last words to the author Scott: “Slowly, we have watched the emergence [in the U.S.] of a new community, still small but undeniably growing, that will not be satisfied with ‘the old false answers.’ How far this new community can reform the deep politics of the old society remains unclear. But in the long perspective of historical time, we see that the communities dedicated to truth, and justice, and decency, tend to outlast those of their vilifiers.”

Notes:

1. For the purpose of this commentary, the term “Shadow Government” is used to refer to the ultra-criminal entity hidden from public view which orchestrated JFK’s assassination. I am convinced, but I can’t prove in a court of law, that he was murdered as the result of a conspiracy. What the nation witnessed, in my opinion, on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas, TX, was nothing less than a coup d’etat.
2. “Deep Politics and the Death of JFK” by Peter Dale Scott.
3. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmarrsJ.htm
4. Stephen Green’s “Taking Sides: America’s Secret Relations with a Militant Israel.”
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm
5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Gelb
6. http://bostonreview.net/BR28.5/galbraith.html

©2008, William Hughes, All Rights Reserved.

William Hughes’ videos can be found at: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=liamh2. His book, “Andrew Jackson vs. New World Order,” is available on Amazon. Email Contact: liamhughes@comcast.net.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Billy Boggs » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:52 pm

Why? Just look at all the Kennedy initiatives that were reversed. There is a term that inst used much today "Multiple Causation". Was it just one reason? I think not.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Bob » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:36 pm

Billy, exactly. Just think about where this world we live in would be, had we experienced JFK's foresight. He was taking the US out of Nam. The war profiteers would not have been happy, but the families of the 58,000+ US troops who died would have been extremely happy, and so would the countless thousands upon thousands of Vietnamese that died. JFK was also going to break up the CIA. That rogue organization has done MUCH more harm than good with it's lawless ways and never ending warrior like thinking that aids the entire Military Industrial Complex. JFK was also making drastic changes with the Federal Reserve. Right now the FR and Big Banking have never been more powerful or rich, and the "little" man is the one paying the price. JFK was also going to eliminate the way Big Oil was able to avoid being taxed in the oil depletion program. Big Oil has also never been more powerful or more profitable than right now, and once again the "real" people are being screwed as Exxon, Chevron, Shell and BP now have no bid contracts in Iraq to control the oil over there. So, do you think JFK's initiative would have helped? NO DOUBT. But not if one was a Bu$h, Rockefeller, Rothschild or someone of that ilk.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Billy Boggs » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:56 pm

Thanks Bob, I'm certain the overall order to take JFK out was coming for some time. But, if I were backed into a corner and left no options and forced to give one reason why JFK was taken out, I would have to say that the straw that broke Kennedy's proverbial back was his giving his "Secret Society speech".

The speech itself seems rather cryptic and general in nature. But who he was talking about knew exactly what he was saying. President Kennedy in essence, declared war on the secret cabals that own the world, and he challenged the media to educate the public as to their nature and clandestine operations. It's really a shame that President Kennedy didn't realize those very same "Owners", also owned the media he was informing.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Bob » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:06 pm

No doubt Billy. Here is the speech you mentioned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghYpDx0f4
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby scottjfkmad » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:30 pm

those are all excellent posts guys...

that speech is very good, and could well have been a major factor in the decision to assassinate JFK... There is another speech he gave at the University Of Washington, ''We All Breath The Same Air'', that I believe angered alot of people too.. Although it is a fantastic speech...

In regards to listing what else the US missed out on without having John Kennedy live was the chance of underprivileged to actually become something and experience something real in the world, i:e the Peace Corps...
Just another example on how JFK's death impacted the USA greatly...
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby John Zeroski » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:46 pm

Author Donald Gibson has some of the BEST reasons President Kennedy was assassinated in his short book Battling Wall Street. In addition, he followed this up with his The Kennedy Assassination Coverup, wherein the last chapter he claims that there is a secret Cabal at the heart of the Council on Foreign Relations that was the driving force. This author also claims that, therefore, the solution to the assassination is OBVIOUS.
Author Jim Marrs was influenced enough by Gibson's ideas to include them in a sub-chapter of his book Rule by Secrecy, in which he claims the "globalists" killed Kennedy. Most of the pages prior to this claim are concerned with rounding up the suspects who might be considered as the "globalists".
Strangely enough, Marrs has left out the Pilgrims society.
I would conclude from the above that the reason JFK was murdered was because he was becoming increasingly aware of the New World Order agenda and was obstructing it by his policies.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:13 pm

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for those of you that like to look in a slightly different angle. there are a few more but i can only download 3:
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby Billy Boggs » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:16 am

I'm not going to go into this too deeply as it is quite involved. I have personal knowledge of the reality of UFOs, and their true place in our reality.

President Kennedy might also have been briefed about the subject and decided to do something about it. But, in my opinion, it wasn't a UFO that blew his head apart and nothing will be gained by discussing it.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:48 pm

i agree it wasn't a ufo that pulled the trigger but if you look elsewhere on the forum a whole range of motives have been discussed as to why the cia was involved. this is just "another straw that broke the camels back".

I have studied this issue many years and this source is credible. I also have discussed the subject of ufo's with jimmy and he has told me that he has material to put in a book. he did not want to discuss the details with me so i think he knows something. i do not know whether it pertains to the assassination.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:43 pm

do to the recent disclosures by the following:

edgar mitchell, astronaut

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo ... 26th_2008/


Clark McClelland (nasa scientist for period of 1958 to 1974)


http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/home.html

the reason I am bringing this into the arena is that if we believe that there are people behind the scenes controlling events and information and in essence controlling our lives then wouldn't it make sence that they would also want to control any alien technology and keep it all a secret so they can continue to charge us $5 a gallon for gas when there is free energy available etc.

These two guys are well respected and have recently come out with their disclosures that in essence prove the cover up. Isn't that what we are trying to do here is get full disclosure? We are lied to about everything. Now this is sensitive stuff and it shows that Kennedy was poking around the subject and trying to share our information with the soviets. I think it is worth examining. If I am wrong, Wim can delete it if he wants, it is his website not ours. I know that others will see it as a crackpot theory but it makes perfect sence to me.

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November 12, 1963 TOP SECRET Memorandum for Director, Central Intelligence Agency
(name blacked out, but presumably John McCone) from President John F. Kennedy.
SUBJECT: Classification review of all UFO intelligence files affecting National Security.

AND JFK IS DEAD ONLY TEN DAYS AFTER HIS NOVEMBER 12, 1963, MEMO

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The burned memo really tells a fascinating story. JFK is beginning to ask too many questions. We can’t allow this, in pretty much no kidding language. And MJ-1 (CIA Director) is saying, ‘I have some new policies I want you other six guys to agree (MJ-2,MJ-3, MJ-4, MJ-5, MJ-6, MJ-7) and let me know before October (presumed to be October 1963) that they are OK because we are going to put them in place. And these six policies are pretty interesting.

This memo says basically, if the President of the United States starts to ask questions, tell him it’s not a matter of national security. And then at the end it says that if the UFOs show up suddenly and we have to admit they are there, then we’ll give full disclosure as the law requires, which amazes me because that implies there is a law that says they (MJ-12) are supposed to disclose something. As far as I can tell so far, MJ-12 has not operated within any law.

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This one basically says some people in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) are getting to know too much, so we’ve got to tell J. Edgar Hoover that there’s something going on. But don’t tell him anything more than we have to and get as much out of him (Hoover) as possible, while we keep our CIA spies in place in the FBI. The ‘back channel contacts’ means CIA guys working inside the FBI.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:55 pm

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5200.1 is just security rules concerning who gets access to classified material. The black stamp ‘CI’ is counter-intelligence. It’s a stamp the counterintelligence guys used under Angleton to distinguish their work from the rest of the CIA. You have to remember that the counter-intelligence people were basically the people trying to figure out whether the Soviets had planted spies within the CIA, so they had a measure of separateness from the rest of the CIA. That separateness was very important. CI could basically do whatever they wanted to do, as evidenced by the fact that’s where they put the MJ-12 program for control.

this is interesting for two reasons. First, it affirms the existence of SCEO (Sensitive Compartmented Executive Order) and also makes clear that apparently it's the 54/12 program that is exempt from that. Otherwise, all of the Department of Defense has no access to anything on MJ-12.
MJ-12 WAS UNDER THE CONTROL OF ANGLETON IN THE CIA'S COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE

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In my judgment, the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) probably established Blue Book in a two-part way. One part was only slightly classified, which is the one we all know about. The other was highly covert, which was to take the information we were getting from the public and run it into MJ-12 to figure out how to use it. Perhaps also, they might have had a misinformation component. I think the thing that is significant to me is the reference to the NIE, the National Intelligence Estimate. That’s pretty important that the MJ-12 BLUE BOOK/MAJIC actually got in there.

At least at that time in the early 1960s, THAT THE COVERT PROJECT BLUE BOOK WAS DESCRIBED IN THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE, which sure contradicts the misinforming public BLUE BOOK that pretty much said there was nothing to UFOs even to investigate.

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This one basically says no matter who asks, don’t tell them anything.

AND IN THAT PREVIOUS picture, ‘REFERENCE TO BLUE BOOK IS AUTHORIZED ONLY WHEN RESPONDING TO PUBLIC AND CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRIES.’ THAT MEANS THIS IS MJ-12’S WAY OF KEEPING EVERYBODY ELSE AT AN ARM’S LENGTH DISTANCE FROM THE TRUTH. And this information doesn’t even extend to Congressional inquiries. Basically it implies everybody (is off limits from knowing E. T. facts). No one who asks, including the U. S. President, has a right to know.
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:07 pm

continued

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this memo re-affirms that ‘the authorization to interrogate and detain any and all targets.’ Basically that says that none of the basic rights that we thought we had apply in this area. THAT THE U. S. CONSTITUTION WAS NOT EVEN BEING RESPECTED BACK IN THE EARLY 1960S, AS FAR AS MJ-12 WAS CONCERNED. this is overt evidence that the U. S. Constitution was being ignored.

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In this memo the BW means biological warfare. SPIKE, HOUSE CLEANING, ARTICHOKE and DOMESTIC, I think are all unknown. I’m still looking for people who claim to know something about those projects. MK-ULTRA, of course, has been released and discussed and basically that was a CIA project that did a lot of unconstitutional testing.

I think the part they have admitted to was the use of psychedelic drugs without permission of the subjects. If you look up MK-ULTRA in the public record, I think you’ll find a lot of bad stuff that has been released.

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‘Draft, Directive Regarding Project ENVIRONMENT. When conditions become non-conducive for growth in our environment and Washington cannot be influenced any further, the weather is lacking any precipitation (mispelled as percipitation in memo) ... it should be wet.’

Well, it’s four thoughts there. The first thought is when ‘conditions become non-conducive for growth.’ I think that means that if MJ-12 is not going to get any money, or no more money, or their money is going to be cut off completely ‘in our environment.’

‘And Washington cannot be influenced any further.’ That means the people who control this covert money are not coming up with it.

MEANS COVERT BLACK BUDGET MONEY TO KEEP MJ-12 FUNCTIONING.. which is presumably somewhere between not trivial and huge!

And the ‘weather is lacking any precipitation.’ I’m reading that to mean that there is no more money coming down from the heavens like it has in the past. Then, ‘it should be wet’ is a reference to ‘wet works,’ or ‘wet affairs,’ which originated in Russia, actually in the 19th Century from a Russian phrase where apparently if you killed somebody during a burglary, it was called ‘wet’ in Russian because of the blood. BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD? Yes, because of the blood. That word got used in the intelligence community in the KGB to describe assassinations. That was picked up by the intelligence communities around the world apparently.

At this point, you have to go back to the scenario that was involved. I would presume that the scenario involved is that MJ-1 is dictating this burned memo to a secretary. He, MJ-1, does not want the secretary to know that he is saying, ‘We ought to kill JFK.’

So MJ-1 was using arcane language to conceal that from the secretary, but all of his (MJ-12) readers would know exactly what he meant. So, that’s my speculation on the phrase, ‘it should be wet.’
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby bob franklin » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:29 am

I recall reading about ARTICHOKE somewhere, Tom. I'm thinking this project either became MK-ULTRA, or the other way 'round.
... Just found this on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ARTICHOKE
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Re: Why was JFK Murdered?

Postby tom jeffers » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:30 pm

thanks bob
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