The Shell Casing Mystery

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Postby Joe Balliro » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:59 am

This is where either Wim or Bruce would be benficial. I would think that the police report would have some insight on this murder.

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Postby Billy Boggs » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:35 am

As I said before, I'm not pro or con on files, but. What are the odds that a .222 casing shows up right where files says he was? Come on, these things must be laying everywhere, right? Right?

Oh, yes, the CIA could have planted them there as disinfo years ago. But how would they know files would say anything years later?

The odds of any cartridge being anywhere unexpectedly must be astronomical. Was this area by the fence a shooting gallery in later years? Does everyone shoot .222s just for the heck of it right there?
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Postby Jim Thompson » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:08 pm

Billy Boggs wrote:As I said before, I'm not pro or con on files, but. What are the odds that a .222 casing shows up right where files says he was? Come on, these things must be laying everywhere, right? Right?

Oh, yes, the CIA could have planted them there as disinfo years ago. But how would they know files would say anything years later?

The odds of any cartridge being anywhere unexpectedly must be astronomical. Was this area by the fence a shooting gallery in later years? Does everyone shoot .222s just for the heck of it right there?


Hey Billy,

Oops. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the casing (bitten) was found over by the west side of the Pergola, wasn't it? Not by the fence where Jimmy was.

And the other casing (unbitten) was found over by the east side of the Pergola.

Weird! No? :shock:
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Postby Pennyworth » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:33 pm

Joe Balliro wrote:Dear Mr Dankbaar,

I've been reading about the shell casings and everything, and information from Bob Vernon as well. Although the shell casing is pretty important, something that has been puzzling me for days has been a telephone interview with Files' Aunt Christine, the lady who took raised him when he was a boy.

http://www.bobvernon.com/aunt.html

I am curious why Vernon didn't touch on Files relationship to Charles Nicoletti, or if she knew any ties he had with the chicago mafia.

-Joe


Files also is on record as stating:

"1. He was in the military although his FBI rap sheet shows Files was in court in Chicago on the day Files said he went on active duty, July 10, 1959.

2. His ex-wife, when questioned by Kroll and Associates in 1994, told the investigator that Jimmy had a twin brother and that the twin brother was the one with her in Chicago on November 22, 1963. Files backed this up, at first, but later told us that he had told his wife to say that. :?: :P

3. He wrote Christine a letter when he was in the service saying something to the effect that "the government has turned me into a killer."

4. Files said he used the name Sutton until 1963 when the name "Files" was given to him by a government agency.

The recording speaks for itself."
Man are these statements full of goobly gobbly gook info...what does Files twin brother being in Chicago with his wife have to do with anything???Did he have a twin?
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Postby dankbaar » Fri May 04, 2007 7:24 pm

Very strange, because this has always been on Vernon's website before I took over:

41. Files's birthdate, place of birth and various aspects of his younger years were confirmed by his mother's sister to Vernon. His aunt also told Vernon that Files had sent her and her husband letters from Vietnam in the early 60's telling them that the "Government has turned me into a killer."

Was he lying there? Or did Aunt Christine lie? Or does she not remember now because of age?

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Postby dankbaar » Fri May 04, 2007 7:26 pm

About the twin brother, see : http://jfkmurdersolved.com/epstein.htm



EPSTEIN: He (James Files) said he had a twin brother, who no one knew about, and whom he met shortly before November 22, and who he murdered after November 22. He said it was his twin brother in hospital with his wife, not him. His wife, however, said there was no twin, and Kroll confirmed there was no twin.

VERNON: This is an outright lie by Epstein. James Files never stated that he had a “twin brother”. This is an outright lie by Epstein. The story of Files having a twin brother was fabricated by Files’ daughter, ex-wife, a Priest and a mob lawyer in Chicago to try to disillusion NBC, or anyone for that matter, and make Files not believable. It was a nice try but it didn’t work. Houston criminal attorney Don Ervin immediately recognized it as a lie and told me specifically that is was a fabrication and that the old mob lawyer was part of it….before I knew the truth about the matter, I might add. This also caused me to break a promise to James Files and that was I was not to go “into his family” for any reason. The same afternoon I became of aware of the “twin brother story”…I spoke personally with James Files’ father, half brother (a minister) and his mother’s sister, who literally raised Files. I knew almost immediately that there was no twin brother. I also spoke to Files. I told him what I knew and he told me the truth…that the story HAD been fabricated by the wife/daughter, Priest and lawyer and that he had called his ex-wife and she came to the prison at his request. She told Files that she still loved him and that she was trying to protect him over the JFK assassination. Files told her that if she was to be called in front of a grand jury to tell the truth for he did not want to see her go to jail. I asked Files if he would also tell the people at dick clark productions the truth about the matter. He said he would. I called for my car and driver and arrived at Dick’s office within 10 minutes or so. Barry Adelman and I called James Files. Files told Barry exactly what he had told me less than a half hour earlier. The phone call was recorded, with Files permission, and it is in the evidence. At no time did James Files EVER say he had a twin brother. Kroll confirmed nothing. Repeat: THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE BY EPSTEIN.
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Postby dankbaar » Sat May 05, 2007 12:20 pm

Here's another statement from the crook:



James E. Files states that he used the name Sutton (although he was born as "Files") until 1963 and there are numerous records available to substantiate his claim. His first wife Eleanor recalls that Files asked her of she wanted to be married under the name Sutton or Files. His aunt Christine recalls that he used the name Sutton all throughout his early school years. When his mother moved to California, he attended Castle Rock Grammar School in Valley Springs, California. There are no school records available.
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Postby dankbaar » Sat May 05, 2007 12:53 pm

1800 HR. Thursday 21 July 1994

R. Vernon
1707 Roan Wood Crt.
Houston, TX 77090

Dear Bob,

I received your welcome letter the other day and as always, I was delighted to hear from you.

I hope this letter finds you well and in good spirits. Just be sure to keep a close watch over your shoulder. As for me, I’m fine, just trying to keep out of trouble. This place is about ready to blow. They just locked F house down. Some Superintendent got the side of his head caved in this morning. Then yesterday, in my unit, the blacks and whites almost got into it. This is one crazy place. I just hope things work out with Julius and my appeal.

Tell Earlene I said hello and I send best wish’s [sic] her way. I hope that pretty soon you’ll be able to get the wolves away from her door.

What is the name of the book and what are you calling the interview? I have several people asking me that question. I feel kind of dumb not having an answer. J

I can’t wait to get the George Jones books. I love all his music and I’m forever trying to do his songs. I’ve been a George Jones fan since 1958. “The Window Up Above.” I’m sure you remember that one.

When you stop in Nashville, give my Aunt Christine my love. Just don’t let her kidnap you like in that movie, “Misery.” J Aunt Christine is (a) wonderful lady. And then I’ll start looking for you right after Nashville. And don’t forget to bring the cassette tape with you.

I gave you Kathy’s address over the phone, but I’m sending it again in this letter so you’ll have it on record. J 2 Wheaton Center #1603, Wheaton, Ill. 60187 phone #708-260-8046.

Yes, I hope that very soon, we’ll be able to go fishing. I’m really looking forward to spending some time with you. I bet we’ll have lots of laughs. Maybe even do another book about crimes and chop shopes [sic].J Or would that make people nervous. The book would be hard core in a world of violence, but also a lot of laughs too, because there were so many crazy things that happened. This would be an easy book to do, cause a lot of my people are still alive and they’d be willing to talk because the statute of limitations is over with. Plus, there’s lots of court records to prove it all happened, even cops. Oh well, it’s something to think about. Bet we could have a lot of laughs working on it. Also, some great pictures of the areas we worked in and did all those crazy things.

I hope the card I made, puts a smile on your face. J I’m waiting to get some water color paper, (which I’ve already waited two months on), but when I do get it, I’ll do you a nice water color picture and send it to you. I’ve also been thinking about having Kathy order me some acrylic paints and canvas and do a painting, looking down from the grassy knoll on-to Kennedy in the limo, with the cross hairs focused on his right eye, or the back of his head being expelled. Then after the book and the movie, put the picture on loan to an art gallery or a museum. That’s one picture, I wouldn’t sell. But I best wait and see if I get indicted before I do anything else. Right!!! J

Hey, I don’t mean to rattle on so much. I hope you didn’t fall asleep reading this. You and the family take care and give my love to Earlene, and you My Friend, Please keep a watch over your shoulder. I don’t want to loose [sic] you. O.K.! Take care & God Bless.

Friends,

Jimmy

P.S. Someday, maybe I’ll tell you the rest of the story. Keep the faith!!!
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