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Postby dankbaar » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:16 pm

There's a dickhead on the education forum by the name of Mark Valenti.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... 9124&st=45

Kindly let me know if I 'm in error with my qualification of him.

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Postby dankbaar » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:22 am

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Can we get I shot JFK if we order it? if so, lll order it now. :)



Yes, untill february 1.

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Postby Pennyworth » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:29 am

dankbaar wrote:There's a dickhead on the education forum by the name of Mark Valenti.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... 9124&st=45

Kindly let me know if I 'm in error with my qualification of him.

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Okay, Mark Valenti, you may have the last word.

You won anyway. I'm still dizzy from the knock-out.

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????? He won?

I think he has a problem ..maybe its jealousy :wink:
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Postby dankbaar » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:18 am

It's a joke, Paul.

He can't even admit that the shadows have grown longer.

That's pretty much the same as denying the Holocaust ever happened.

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Postby Bob » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:01 pm

Wim, I think your description of Valenti is pretty accurate. I was one that always thought that Sturgis and Hunt were two of the three tramps. Until I came upon your site. I still believe Sturgis and Hunt were in Dealey Plaza that day, but to me there is no question that the three tramps are Holt, Rogers and Harrelson.
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Postby dankbaar » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:10 pm

Well Bob, untill I knew of Chauncey, I didn't rule out either the possibillity that Hunt and Sturgis were the tramps. But I didn't find the resemblance convincing and I kept asking myself why such a high level guy as Hunt would dress up as a tramp.

So Holt gave me the answers on that one. However, some of these researchers (such as Jack white) have brainwashed themselves for such a long time, they just cant' say goodbye to their belief that Hunt and Sturgis were the tramps.

The so called JFK research community is the greatest roadblock to the truth and its own worst enemy.

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Postby Bob » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:42 pm

I agree Wim. There is so much petty jealousy out there (not from you) among the many researchers. Instead of collaborating and joining forces, folks like McAdams only look to discredit and disinform. I took a long, hard look at all the JFK researchers before I decided that your site depicted the most accurate description about what really happened in Dallas that day. That's why I try and turn as many people as possible on to your site. And I hope I can help in some small way to make it the best JFK site out there.
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Postby dankbaar » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:46 pm

Hey Bob, it already is :lol:
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Postby Jim Thompson » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:43 pm

dankbaar wrote:The so called JFK research community is the greatest roadblock to the truth and its own worst enemy.

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This post over on the Education forum is exactly what I think:

I'm somewhat confused by this strange thread. In order to see the matter in question for myself, I bought & looked at Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite . It seems to me that Chauncey Holt was simply telling the truth from memory. What he says does not contradict anything I've seen in the canon of JFK literature & analysis. It seems to me that Holt's recollections throw a very bright light into areas of JFK assassination research which have been hidden & obscure for a very long time.

This being said, I can't but wonder why Valenti & Weaver, who apparently have not seen Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite , should be at pains to discredit Holt's interview. There seems to be personal animosity toward Dunkbaar for his sale of the Holt interview. Why? I paid a small fortune for a copy of Bloody Treason. By the time you've bought Ultimate Sacrifice & Someone Would Have Talked & a raft of other books, you're bankrupt. Still, there's value to be had for the money, no? IMO, Holt's interview, produced by Dunkbaar or by Mahatma Gandhi, stands independently as a tremendous source of otherwise unavailable information & insight.



Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite is a well worth a look see!


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Postby Jim Thompson » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:58 pm

Bob wrote:I agree Wim... And I hope I can help in some small way to make it the best JFK site out there.


Fear not, Bob, there are unseen powers for good at work. You know, the Scarlet Pimpernel & his band of brothers. Those guys!
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Postby Pennyworth » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:07 pm

dankbaar wrote:You won't regret this purchase 8)

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You are so right.. :D :shock: :shock: I'm watching and re-watching it is mind bogglingly informative... a MUST see for every citizen of any nation. The film shows a different perspective of the 'Cuban Crisis.'... and shows that history can be re-written ... looks like Licavoli (and you are right there are names I never heard of) initially instigated friction against Castro because Castro booted his casino out of Cuba. The mob teamed with the CIA. From this perspective the US (CIA) can be seen as the aggressor and Castro on the defensive. Castro went to to Kruschev for trading and help after the U.S. cut off sugar (Cuba's largest commodity) trading with Cuba. :shock: The missiles 'crisis' were placed for defense from US attacks, not aggression towards the U.S. the other way as we were fed through the news media ....
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Questions:

Postby Pennyworth » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:28 pm

Sorry Wim, I didn't mean to post on the other thread (review) with questions. Here's my questions;

Q.What did Chauncey Holt die of or from 8 days after filming? He didn't exactly look like he was on his death bed. :?: :?: :?:

Q. Where was Files located on the knoll in relation to Harrelson ?( I found one answer to what I was asking on this forum...sometimes I jump the gun..Files said he knew of no other shooters ....)

Holt said he got orders from Twombly ( who can be linked to Rockefeller) for Dallas,

Later...I am still looking at this amazing documentary.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Questions:

Postby Pennyworth » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:00 pm

Paul Pennyworth wrote:Sorry Wim, I didn't mean to post on the other thread (review) with questions. Here's my questions;

Q.What did Chauncey Holt die of or from 8 days after filming? He didn't exactly look like he was on his death bed. :?: :?: :?:

Q. Where was Files located on the knoll in relation to Harrelson ?( I found one answer to what I was asking on this forum...sometimes I jump the gun..Files said he knew of no other shooters ....)

Holt said he got orders from Twombly ( who can be linked to Rockefeller) for Dallas,

Later...I am still looking at this amazing documentary.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Additionally, there is a man alive and well in a Chicago prison, a man who has been claiming for over a decade that he is one of the real assassins of President Kennedy. This man, his name is James Files, has been proven to be an associate of Charles Nicoletti, a notorious hitman from the crime family of Sam Giancana. It is the same man that Chauncey Holt said he drove to Dallas. James Files has identified this Nicoletti and John Roselli as other shooters in Dealey Plaza. Is it a coincidence that all these men were also recruited in the CIA/Mafia plots to assassinate Fidel Castro? Is it again a coincidence that all these men were murdered shortly before they were scheduled to testify? Why do we see the same pattern here? The pattern that the American authorities are not interested to investigate this man? The pattern that the American public has never heard about this man? This man says he knows George Bush from the Bay of Pigs, that George Bush did recruiting for Operation 40. This man also says that Orlando Bosch was right there on Dealey Plaza. Not an outrageous claim at all, since we know that Bosch and Posada worked together in other operations. The cuban airlne bombing is just one example.
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Postby dankbaar » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:03 pm

Sorry Wim, I didn't mean to post on the other thread (review) with questions. Here's my questions;

Q.What did Chauncey Holt die of or from 8 days after filming? He didn't exactly look like he was on his death bed.

He died of cancer, he was diagnosed 6 months before. He want in for an eye (cateract) operation, and they told him he had ocular melanoma. From then on it spreaded rapidly through his body. His daughter was fascinated by Judyth Baker's story, if you catch my drift.

Q. Where was Files located on the knoll in relation to Harrelson ?( I found one answer to what I was asking on this forum...sometimes I jump the gun..Files said he knew of no other shooters ....)

You know where Files was, I don't know where Harrelson was, nor did Chauncey. Chauncey knows he met Harrelson in the parking lot behind the fence well in advance of the shooting, and in the box car right after the shooting. This is interesting, because it appears that Harrelson and Montoya had the same instructions as Holt, without Holt knowing it. Holt was not a shooter, so Harrelson and Montoya (Rogers) may not have been shooters either (is what I think). They could even have been backup patsies if the Oswald plan went afoul. Their puppetmasters could have blown up the boxcar with all the explosives in it. The remains of three known mafia soldiers would have been found in that scenario. Harrelson may have been in the railroad yard or the parking lot during the shooting and not on the knoll at at all.

Holt said he got orders from Twombly ( who can be linked to Rockefeller) for Dallas,

How can he be linked?

Later...I am still looking at this amazing documentary....

Truth makes a lot more sense than fiction, doesn't it? There's more evidence for Holt than you've seen.

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Postby Pennyworth » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:13 am

Harrelson confessed to being one of the shooterS (see Harrelson thread).

I can't recall exaCTLY where Files was.... :?
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