Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby dankbaar » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:56 am

Bruce and Jimmy,

Let me try and explain once more why I believe the information from Jimmy about Hoffa is entirely credible. The first time I heard that Jimmy knows who killed Hoffa was when I Pamela Ray and I were exchanging stuff about Jimmy. This was in the period ranging from 2001 to 2003, I do not know anymore exactly when she sent me this:

August 30, 1999, James Files to author in letter
Did you ever see the movie, “The Jimmy Hoffa Story?” I think that was the name of it. It was out two or three years ago. Anyway, it was pretty close to real life, except the ending. He was killed by a young gun, but the car was not loaded into a tractor-trailer. It was driven away from the area and to one of the sanitation yards and the body went into a furnace and the ashes went all over Detroit and the suburbs. That is a fact.

Now let us realize that Jimmy divulged this in a private letter to a woman he entirely trusts. A woman he fell in love with, a woman he announced to be married with very recently, 17 years later as a now free man. You see, it is very unlikely that Jimmy would lie to such a woman. And he did not intend this information for public consumption. It was Pam who gave this letter to me, not Jimmy. Jimmy says Hoffa was killed by a young gun, thereby implying to know who this young gun was. The mere fact that he knows the killer was young, means that he also his identity. The rest of the details are also pretty hard to make up.

So let us conclude that Jimmy never intended this to be public information, which was confirmed in my talk to him the day before the video interview:

Note from Wim: The day before the video-interview, on November 18, 2003, I had a 4 hour talk with James Files and Pamela Ray. I brought the conversation to the murder of Jimmy Hoffa, and he said he did not want to discuss that. I then asked “But you do know who did that?” He said yes. I then confronted him with a book I had read, wherein a contract killer (Donald Frankos) had confessed that he had taken part in the murder and that Hoffa was killed in a home with a shot in the back of the head just after he sat down in a chair. Files commented that this was all “bullshit” and that “Hoffa was killed in a parking lot, in a wide open area”. So then I asked Files if he knew what happened to the body, and he said yes. I asked him if there was any merit to the rumors that the body was put in the concrete of Yankee stadium. Files said no and added: “I'll give you this: There is no body, his ashes are all over Detroit, but I will deny I ever told you that.”

You see Bruce? That is what makes this information so credible, along with this:

Since Mr. Files was heavily involved in the Sam Giancana/Tony Accardo family of Chicago, and the personal driver and bodyguard for enforcer Charles Nicoletti, it is very likely that his information is accurate. If you wish to learn more I could also try to bring you and possibly your sister in contact with mr. Files. I sense that he might divulge to you what he knows in a private conversation. In such case I would give you the contact data for his best living friend mr. Bruce Brychek, who is working on a biography of Mr. Files.

What is more, Bruce, since you are the best trusted living friend of James Files, more than anyone else, including Pam, I dare to say that YOU also know who killed Jimmy Hoffa and why. If Jimmy has not told you, you would not be his best trusted friend. So let us accept that as fact that you know inside out. Therefore my advice is to not put on the mistmachine, claiming that it is irrelevant who killed Hoffa. For your and Jimmy's credibility it would be better to say why you cannot divulge what you know about this subject. I can think of only one reason: That some of the culprits are still alive. So why don't you say that then?

If you truly respect me, as I do you, you would just stop beating around the bush and confirm that you know, but just give us the reasons why it cannot be known as of this time. The reason why I am pressing you on this, is because we share the common goal to prove the credibility of James Files on his JFK story. As you know Jimmy's credibility has been lambasted by the powers that be, mainly the FBI. The same "fucking Feds" that spent millions of tax dollars on false tips to find Hoffa's body! While they could simply ask you and Jimmy, especially now that he is a free man. If they really want to solve this crime so much, they would offer Jimmy immunity and have the answer. But that is not happening, because it would prove his JFK story too! His JFK story that they have officially declared "non credible". Do you see the difference with the Hoffa case, Bruce?

It is clear that they don't want to solve the JFK case, after all that would shake the foundations and spirit of American society, but they claim they want to solve the Hoffa case. And Jimmy and you have the answers to both!

Hence, Bruce, if you really want to help me and Jimmy to advance his credibility, which is our common goal, you would either give us who killed Hoffa and why, or tell us the reasons why you cannot at this time.

Maybe you could at least share with us your annoyance that Hollywood, Martin Scorcese, Robert de Niro and Al Pacino, my favorite director and actors, are making a false film about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irishman_(2019_film)

Do JImmy and you not know that Frank Sheeran merely drove the body to the Hammtrack incinerator, but did NOT kill Hoffa? Sheeran is not around anymore to tell the truth. But you and Jimmy are! You constantly ask: Who has the power to cover it up? But you let it go by that Hollywood unwittingly covers up the truth about Hoffa?

You see, Bruce this film has been constantly postponed, now to 2019. There is now even talk that Netflix will air it. Worldwide billion audience. May I offer you to Emma Tillinger (PA for Martin Scorcese) as a consultant for this film? You can straighten them out, can you not?

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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby dankbaar » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:02 pm

Dear Janet, 04/18/11
(.......)
As for the new Jimmy Hoffa movie, The Irishman did NOT kill him, but it should make for a good movie. I'm dying to see what they do with Hoffa's body in the movie, so that it's never found. There's pictures of the Irishman somewhere else at the time and that was why the cops had to let him go. There's also another reason why The Irishman didn't kill Hoffa, but I can't put that in writing. But the cops knew he didn't do it as there was too much proof of him at another place.

I want to Thank You for everything you sent me and I appreciate it much more than you know and I wish you and your loved ones a very Happy Easter and know that you and your family are in my prayers, my thoughts and forever in my heart and may God keep you and your family safe and out of harms way and may all good things come your way.
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:19 pm

Slav I thank you so very much for your encouraging kind words that you posted.Your reply to me meant the world to me.I have taken a step back from our Forum.Although never missing a single day to follow and read the thoughts and research from other members.But for myself I felt I needed to step back and listen and read and hear others ideals and thoughts.I never meant to upset or hurt anyone here.I have nothing but admiration and respect for our members who have contributed so much and so much knowledge. I have for many many many years now fought an uphill battle trying to show and prove the George de Mohrenschildt's connection to the overall plot in John Kennedy's murder.It's a study and research that has taken my wife and myself around the world to study and research.All those years ago now when I decided I wanted to try to make a difference mount a calculated attack take the extra step wade into a cesspool of lies and misinformation and red herons concerning John Kennedy's murder.I did it with the hopes and possibility that just maybe one day my efforts and study and research would help everyone understand what really happened in the days and months leading up to November of 1963 and President Kennedy's assassination.My research never was about who shot John Kennedy I left that to others and I am confident we here on our Forum know who was standing behind that grassy knoll wooden fence and took that fatal shot.My goal was to show who had an influencing force who pushed Lee Oswald who planted the seed in the mind of Lee Oswald who maneuvered a young naive but intelligent 24 year old.Who methodically molded and positioned Lee Oswald into a position that once the event started there was no way out. And once the trap was set there was nothing left to do but watch it all unfold.And I am here today to say our findings showed that George de Mohrenschildt played a part in this mind influencing.We have photo copies of hand written personal letters from George de Mohrenschildt that we held in our own hands in Den Haag The Netherlands telling of his personal involvement telling of the huge weight the huge pressures he had lived with for years after it all ended.The cover was in place the old school intelligence operative moved into the back ground moved into the shadows denial over and over was the ace card.Shortly before de Mohrenschildt was found dead in Palm Beach County Florida he had told Willem Oltmans "He had a great sadness of what had happened to Lee Oswald and a deep feeling of guilt. He openly had said “what a horrible shame it was that Lee had been put into the position that history had sealed for him”. He was innocent of what he had been accused of .
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby dankbaar » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:37 pm

Dear Bruce,

Why are you burying my topic about Hoffa with generic topics and questions that can be found all over the internet? Nobody will blame you if you say: Yes, Wim and dear fellow JFKmurdersolved forum members, Jimmy and I know who killed Hoffa. But we cannot divulge that information now for such and such reason.

Are you afraid that some anonymous crooks would send Jimmy a message like before? "Keep quiet and lay down by your doggy bowl?" That didn't hold him back to tell the truth about JFK, did it? That costed him 15 more years in jail!

Hey Bruce, if you want to talk about marketing, here is a question: Why is it that a man who has confessed since 1994 that he was the grassy knoll shooter of JFK, and spent 25 years in jail for something he did not do, is ignored by the mainststream media? Even now that he is a free man and can be approached for interviews through his best lifelong friend and manager Bruce Brychek? If you want to lecture me on marketing, why don't we focus on that question? Or are you going to wait until Jimmy is dead? Like Chauncey Holt? Oh well, then your biography of Jimmy will blow the lid off! It is going to be a smashing bestseller! NOT!

NOW IS THE TIME, Bruce! While Jimmy is still alive, well and lucid! And YOU are much more credible as his spokesman than I! Please do not give us more BS like Shawnn that her father is still under under parole and strict regulations. Why have you been friends with Jimmy for most of your life? To let his story die and ignored? Where is Jimmy himself? Where is his honor? Did he make his sacrifices to keep his mouth shut now? What are you doing here, Bruce, on my forum, fiddling in the margin? Don't you grasp there is no audience here to speak of? It's only a handful of diehards to be counted on 4 hands. Do they make me come for their appraisals of you and me? Sure, it's nice to read their contributions. But does that make a difference? Can't you use your time and efforts more wisely and effectively?

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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Dealey Joe » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:49 am

I should apologize for my lack of posting,

And that the ones who have kept things going.

I talked to James Hoffa several years ago in a city south of Chicago. there was a small group and I just kind of made myself welcome. Hoffa was talking about different things I knew nothing about but the thing he did say burnt into my mind, He said there will be a major development in the next year. In the next year he was gone?
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Slav » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:18 am

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Tommy we can’t take what others say personally we have to keep going, your membership is wanted and needed and your efforts are outstanding, please done give up.

So I left my house today drove down the street and I see a tbird I’m thinking Tommy’s here to whack me. First time I seen one local in years.
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Bob » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:55 pm

Check out this article from the Boston Globe in 2013 about Bobby Kennedy and who he thought was behind his brother's assassination.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/ ... story.html

Here is part of the piece:

It was no coincidence that Bobby would turn to a labor lawyer for intel on organized crime. As the crusading chief counsel of the Senate Rackets Committee in the 1950s, Bobby had made a national name for himself by grilling leading gangsters as he exposed the nefarious connections between the mob and American labor unions.

His chief nemesis during these hearings was Jimmy Hoffa, the squat, bull-faced leader of the Teamsters union. Bobby accused Hoffa of funneling millions in worker pension funds into a money-laundering scheme with mob leaders. That alliance bought the Teamster leader muscle to silence his enemies and scare corporate leaders into submission.

Bobby had been unrelenting in his war against these mob and labor leaders, ignoring the admonition of his father to choose less violence-prone targets and dismissing the underworld threats against his own life. Instead, Bobby had doubled down, even persuading his brother Jack, then a senator, to join the cause. About the only security measure Bobby had accepted, following an anonymous threat that acid might be thrown at the faces of his young children, was to have the kids wait in the principal’s office at the end of each school day, rather than outside, for Ethel to pick them up.

After Jack became president and he attorney general, Bobby wasted little time in leveraging the full force of the Justice Department to try to crush these corrupt characters. Now, as he strode around Hickory Hill, reeling from the news of the assassination, Bobby couldn’t help but wonder if one of them had been behind it.

An immediate focus, according to several of his aides with direct knowledge, was Hoffa. Bobby knew that a year earlier, according to a Teamster middle-manager turned FBI informant, Hoffa had complained, “I’ve got to do something about that son of a bitch Bobby Kennedy. He’s got to go.” Hoffa had also allegedly asked that informant if he knew anything about “plastic explosives” and suggested opportunities for getting Kennedy, when he was swimming alone in his pool at home or driving alone in his convertible, according to historian David Kaiser’s book, “The Road to Dallas.”

Bobby knew he had given Hoffa and his heavyweight mob pals plenty of new reasons to want to cut him down. At the same time the shots were being fired in Dallas, Bobby’s Justice Department was preparing for the jury-tampering trial of Hoffa in Nashville, which had sprung from its unremitting probe of the Teamster leader. From the federal courthouse there, Walter Sheridan, who had been Bobby’s aide-de-camp in the mob war ever since the Rackets Committee, told his boss in another phone call RFK made that afternoon that he hadn’t been able to find any evidence linking Hoffa to the assassination.

But, according to an oral history that Sheridan would eventually give to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, Sheridan later informed Bobby that Hoffa had been at a restaurant when he learned JFK had been shot. The reaction of the pugnacious labor leader was unlike that of most other Americans. “He got up on the table,” Sheridan said, “and cheered.”

Meanwhile, another Mafia leader and Hoffa associate, Carlos Marcello, sat in that New Orleans courtroom, awaiting his verdict. The second deportation trial for Marcello, who ran the mob in New Orleans and Dallas, was the culmination of a relentless three-year campaign by Bobby’s team to get him out of the country.

While not on trial at the time, another mob leader close to Hoffa was also chafing under the intense scrutiny of the Justice Department. Santo Trafficante Jr. was the Florida mob boss and former big-time Havana casino owner who lost millions when Castro took over Cuba. (Trafficante had been imprisoned in Cuba in 1959. His visitors during that stretch, according to Kaiser, included Dallas nightclub owner and mob foot soldier Jack Ruby, who gunned down Oswald in the basement of Dallas police headquarters two days after JFK’s murder.)

In addition to lots of underworld associations, Trafficante and Hoffa even shared a lawyer, Frank Ragano. In his book “Mob Lawyer,” Ragano detailed how Hoffa had instructed him in the summer of 1963 to tell Trafficante and Marcello that the time had come to kill the president. He thought Hoffa was just venting, and delivered the message jokingly, but said the two mobsters seemed to take it much more seriously.

Marcello ended up being acquitted in New Orleans the same day that the president was killed. While serving time later in life, he was caught on a federal wiretap confessing to an FBI informant that he’d had JFK killed, according to FBI files released under the JFK Records Act of 1992.Trafficante is also alleged to have made a deathbed confession of his involvement to his lawyer, expressing regret that maybe the gun should have been pointed at Bobby.

Another member of this rogue’s gallery of suspects was Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana. This is the same Giancana who, it would later be revealed, had shared a mistress with JFK. The Chicago boss had been put under such smothering government surveillance during 1963 that Kaiser, the “Road to Dallas” author, argues it had crossed over into harassment. In a recent interview, Kaiser said he believes Marcello, Trafficante, and probably Giancana — likely at the behest of Hoffa — were all involved in putting in motion the hit on JFK.

As for Giancana, he was expected to testify in 1975 before a Senate subcommittee co-chaired by Gary Hart of Colorado. Established to investigate the JFK assassination, the subcommittee was the first official body to openly question the lone-gunman narrative of the Warren Commission. But before Giancana could appear, his bullet-riddled body was found in his basement in suburban Chicago. The dismembered body of another mob witness, Boston-born Johnny Rosselli, was found in a drum floating off Florida, after he had testified in front of Hart’s panel.

Hart said in a recent interview that he remains flabbergasted by US law enforcement’s lack of interest in solving those two grisly murders. “You had a new set of suspects — those who had motives to be angry at John and Robert Kennedy. When you think about that for 10 seconds, the implications are pretty huge,” Hart said, adding, “If you can find out who killed Rosselli and Giancana, you may have an answer to the mystery of the century.”

Even in the absence of that answer, it is clear Bobby knew just how desperate these underworld characters were to stop his war against them. And beyond that, they had a more-than-passing interest in Bobby’s oversight of the administration’s Cuba portfolio.

***

‘One of your guys did it,” Bobby said matter-of-factly, calling from Hickory Hill later on Nov. 22.

He was speaking to Enrique “Harry” Williams, a veteran of the Bay of Pigs operation and the Cuban exile whom Bobby trusted most. Journalist Haynes Johnson happened to be with Williams in Washington’s Ebbitt Hotel at the time, and he later wrote about how stunned he was when Williams hung up the phone and relayed the attorney general’s comments.

In the time that Bobby had been overseeing his brother’s so-called Special Group team on Cuba, he had come to appreciate just how ungovernable the Cuban exile community could be. It hadn’t taken long on Nov. 22 for speculation to focus on the possible involvement of Fidel Castro, given the Kennedy administration’s repeated attempts to oust or assassinate the Communist leader. That speculation only intensified after the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald, whose record of pro-Castro agitation quickly came to light. Yet it’s intriguing that Bobby’s suspicion of possible Cuban involvement seemed to focus squarely on the anti-Castro crowd.

While he trusted Williams and wasn’t accusing him personally, Bobby knew how furious many members of the exile community had become with the Kennedys, based on the administration’s failure to go all out in the effort to topple Castro. The Kennedy brothers had refused to launch a full-scale military invasion of the island nation, and by 1963 had even begun authorizing some back-channel efforts toward compromise with both Castro and his Soviet benefactors. This, Bobby knew, would be viewed as intolerable by the most hard-line Cuban exiles.

Just one day before his brother’s murder, Bobby had received a classified CIA report assessing the exile community’s reaction to a recent speech on Cuba policy that JFK had delivered in Miami. “The conservative and moderate elements were disappointed, having hoped for a more militant stand against the Castro revolution and regime,” stated the Nov. 21 report. Written by Richard Helms, the wily CIA deputy director who many believed was really running the agency, the report was contained in the confidential RFK Justice Department files released earlier this year.

As Bobby’s post-assassination suspicions appeared to bounce from Cuba to the Mafia to the CIA, he surely had to confront the reality that the lines separating all three had become increasingly blurry. In those same newly released RFK files was a personal note that Helms had written to Bobby, flagging an article that had appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times in 1962. Headlined “CIA Sought Giancana Help for Cuba Spying,” the article described a “fantastic tale of attempted Cuba espionage” involving the Chicago mob boss and covert operatives for the government.

This, of course, was the same Giancana whom Bobby had been doggedly trying to put away for years. The idea that the CIA would have turned to the mobster for a little help with Cuba would have seemed too outlandish for many Americans to believe. By now, however, Bobby knew the article had barely scratched the surface. The truth was a lot worse.

In the spring of 1962, two CIA officials had showed up at the attorney general’s office to inform him that the Justice Department needed to drop its prosecution of a Giancana associate. When Bobby asked why the CIA was so intent on keeping Giancana happy, according to the 2007 Talbot book “Brothers,” one of the intelligence officers told him that “the CIA had enlisted the gangster in a plot to assassinate Fidel Castro.”

There was actually a long secret alliance between the country’s covert intelligence agency and the underworld. In fact, it was older than the CIA itself. During World War II, as Talbot points out, the OSS — forerunner to the CIA — forged a deal enlisting several mob bosses “to help guard against enemy sabotage in the New York Harbor and to supply intelligence from their contacts in Italy.” Federal officials returned the favor by looking the other way as the mobsters consolidated their power in post-war America, pretending that organized crime did not exist on these shores.

So even if Bobby Kennedy had been appalled in 1962 to learn that the CIA had tapped a reviled mobster to call in a hit on Castro, the idea of an alliance between these supposed white hats and black hats could hardly have been a surprise to him.
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:46 pm

Thanks Slav..You know whats strange ? When I stepped away from our Forum here JFK Murder Solved Forum I searched out a few other Kennedy assassination forums and took a good look at them and I just couldn't stand it.Not cutting any of those forums down but the content the contributions were so lax so off point and so not updated.The ones I went to seemed very bush league.The moment I would sign off from them back I went to JFK Murder Solved Forum.Couldn't help but feel like I was back home again each time.After years now of be a member here since July 17,2013 .I like to hope and feel like I am a part of this group here and I must say I am very proud of that.So many here have contributed so much and I just hope what I have shared here has been helpful to the fellow members. You know Slav down here in Florida today is going to be 84 degrees and full blue sky's.I will have the T-Bird out for a cruise for sure.I have had the top down all winter long here.It may even get warm enough for a swim in our pool here at our house in Palm Coast today !!
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Re: Question to Bruce and Jimmy about James Hoffa:

Postby Bob » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:28 am

Bob wrote:Check out this article from the Boston Globe in 2013 about Bobby Kennedy and who he thought was behind his brother's assassination.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/ ... story.html

Here is part of the piece:

It was no coincidence that Bobby would turn to a labor lawyer for intel on organized crime. As the crusading chief counsel of the Senate Rackets Committee in the 1950s, Bobby had made a national name for himself by grilling leading gangsters as he exposed the nefarious connections between the mob and American labor unions.

His chief nemesis during these hearings was Jimmy Hoffa, the squat, bull-faced leader of the Teamsters union. Bobby accused Hoffa of funneling millions in worker pension funds into a money-laundering scheme with mob leaders. That alliance bought the Teamster leader muscle to silence his enemies and scare corporate leaders into submission.

Bobby had been unrelenting in his war against these mob and labor leaders, ignoring the admonition of his father to choose less violence-prone targets and dismissing the underworld threats against his own life. Instead, Bobby had doubled down, even persuading his brother Jack, then a senator, to join the cause. About the only security measure Bobby had accepted, following an anonymous threat that acid might be thrown at the faces of his young children, was to have the kids wait in the principal’s office at the end of each school day, rather than outside, for Ethel to pick them up.

After Jack became president and he attorney general, Bobby wasted little time in leveraging the full force of the Justice Department to try to crush these corrupt characters. Now, as he strode around Hickory Hill, reeling from the news of the assassination, Bobby couldn’t help but wonder if one of them had been behind it.

An immediate focus, according to several of his aides with direct knowledge, was Hoffa. Bobby knew that a year earlier, according to a Teamster middle-manager turned FBI informant, Hoffa had complained, “I’ve got to do something about that son of a bitch Bobby Kennedy. He’s got to go.” Hoffa had also allegedly asked that informant if he knew anything about “plastic explosives” and suggested opportunities for getting Kennedy, when he was swimming alone in his pool at home or driving alone in his convertible, according to historian David Kaiser’s book, “The Road to Dallas.”

Bobby knew he had given Hoffa and his heavyweight mob pals plenty of new reasons to want to cut him down. At the same time the shots were being fired in Dallas, Bobby’s Justice Department was preparing for the jury-tampering trial of Hoffa in Nashville, which had sprung from its unremitting probe of the Teamster leader. From the federal courthouse there, Walter Sheridan, who had been Bobby’s aide-de-camp in the mob war ever since the Rackets Committee, told his boss in another phone call RFK made that afternoon that he hadn’t been able to find any evidence linking Hoffa to the assassination.

But, according to an oral history that Sheridan would eventually give to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, Sheridan later informed Bobby that Hoffa had been at a restaurant when he learned JFK had been shot. The reaction of the pugnacious labor leader was unlike that of most other Americans. “He got up on the table,” Sheridan said, “and cheered.”

Meanwhile, another Mafia leader and Hoffa associate, Carlos Marcello, sat in that New Orleans courtroom, awaiting his verdict. The second deportation trial for Marcello, who ran the mob in New Orleans and Dallas, was the culmination of a relentless three-year campaign by Bobby’s team to get him out of the country.

While not on trial at the time, another mob leader close to Hoffa was also chafing under the intense scrutiny of the Justice Department. Santo Trafficante Jr. was the Florida mob boss and former big-time Havana casino owner who lost millions when Castro took over Cuba. (Trafficante had been imprisoned in Cuba in 1959. His visitors during that stretch, according to Kaiser, included Dallas nightclub owner and mob foot soldier Jack Ruby, who gunned down Oswald in the basement of Dallas police headquarters two days after JFK’s murder.)

In addition to lots of underworld associations, Trafficante and Hoffa even shared a lawyer, Frank Ragano. In his book “Mob Lawyer,” Ragano detailed how Hoffa had instructed him in the summer of 1963 to tell Trafficante and Marcello that the time had come to kill the president. He thought Hoffa was just venting, and delivered the message jokingly, but said the two mobsters seemed to take it much more seriously.

Marcello ended up being acquitted in New Orleans the same day that the president was killed. While serving time later in life, he was caught on a federal wiretap confessing to an FBI informant that he’d had JFK killed, according to FBI files released under the JFK Records Act of 1992.Trafficante is also alleged to have made a deathbed confession of his involvement to his lawyer, expressing regret that maybe the gun should have been pointed at Bobby.

Another member of this rogue’s gallery of suspects was Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana. This is the same Giancana who, it would later be revealed, had shared a mistress with JFK. The Chicago boss had been put under such smothering government surveillance during 1963 that Kaiser, the “Road to Dallas” author, argues it had crossed over into harassment. In a recent interview, Kaiser said he believes Marcello, Trafficante, and probably Giancana — likely at the behest of Hoffa — were all involved in putting in motion the hit on JFK.

As for Giancana, he was expected to testify in 1975 before a Senate subcommittee co-chaired by Gary Hart of Colorado. Established to investigate the JFK assassination, the subcommittee was the first official body to openly question the lone-gunman narrative of the Warren Commission. But before Giancana could appear, his bullet-riddled body was found in his basement in suburban Chicago. The dismembered body of another mob witness, Boston-born Johnny Rosselli, was found in a drum floating off Florida, after he had testified in front of Hart’s panel.

Hart said in a recent interview that he remains flabbergasted by US law enforcement’s lack of interest in solving those two grisly murders. “You had a new set of suspects — those who had motives to be angry at John and Robert Kennedy. When you think about that for 10 seconds, the implications are pretty huge,” Hart said, adding, “If you can find out who killed Rosselli and Giancana, you may have an answer to the mystery of the century.”

Even in the absence of that answer, it is clear Bobby knew just how desperate these underworld characters were to stop his war against them. And beyond that, they had a more-than-passing interest in Bobby’s oversight of the administration’s Cuba portfolio.

***

‘One of your guys did it,” Bobby said matter-of-factly, calling from Hickory Hill later on Nov. 22.

He was speaking to Enrique “Harry” Williams, a veteran of the Bay of Pigs operation and the Cuban exile whom Bobby trusted most. Journalist Haynes Johnson happened to be with Williams in Washington’s Ebbitt Hotel at the time, and he later wrote about how stunned he was when Williams hung up the phone and relayed the attorney general’s comments.

In the time that Bobby had been overseeing his brother’s so-called Special Group team on Cuba, he had come to appreciate just how ungovernable the Cuban exile community could be. It hadn’t taken long on Nov. 22 for speculation to focus on the possible involvement of Fidel Castro, given the Kennedy administration’s repeated attempts to oust or assassinate the Communist leader. That speculation only intensified after the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald, whose record of pro-Castro agitation quickly came to light. Yet it’s intriguing that Bobby’s suspicion of possible Cuban involvement seemed to focus squarely on the anti-Castro crowd.

While he trusted Williams and wasn’t accusing him personally, Bobby knew how furious many members of the exile community had become with the Kennedys, based on the administration’s failure to go all out in the effort to topple Castro. The Kennedy brothers had refused to launch a full-scale military invasion of the island nation, and by 1963 had even begun authorizing some back-channel efforts toward compromise with both Castro and his Soviet benefactors. This, Bobby knew, would be viewed as intolerable by the most hard-line Cuban exiles.

Just one day before his brother’s murder, Bobby had received a classified CIA report assessing the exile community’s reaction to a recent speech on Cuba policy that JFK had delivered in Miami. “The conservative and moderate elements were disappointed, having hoped for a more militant stand against the Castro revolution and regime,” stated the Nov. 21 report. Written by Richard Helms, the wily CIA deputy director who many believed was really running the agency, the report was contained in the confidential RFK Justice Department files released earlier this year.

As Bobby’s post-assassination suspicions appeared to bounce from Cuba to the Mafia to the CIA, he surely had to confront the reality that the lines separating all three had become increasingly blurry. In those same newly released RFK files was a personal note that Helms had written to Bobby, flagging an article that had appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times in 1962. Headlined “CIA Sought Giancana Help for Cuba Spying,” the article described a “fantastic tale of attempted Cuba espionage” involving the Chicago mob boss and covert operatives for the government.

This, of course, was the same Giancana whom Bobby had been doggedly trying to put away for years. The idea that the CIA would have turned to the mobster for a little help with Cuba would have seemed too outlandish for many Americans to believe. By now, however, Bobby knew the article had barely scratched the surface. The truth was a lot worse.

In the spring of 1962, two CIA officials had showed up at the attorney general’s office to inform him that the Justice Department needed to drop its prosecution of a Giancana associate. When Bobby asked why the CIA was so intent on keeping Giancana happy, according to the 2007 Talbot book “Brothers,” one of the intelligence officers told him that “the CIA had enlisted the gangster in a plot to assassinate Fidel Castro.”

There was actually a long secret alliance between the country’s covert intelligence agency and the underworld. In fact, it was older than the CIA itself. During World War II, as Talbot points out, the OSS — forerunner to the CIA — forged a deal enlisting several mob bosses “to help guard against enemy sabotage in the New York Harbor and to supply intelligence from their contacts in Italy.” Federal officials returned the favor by looking the other way as the mobsters consolidated their power in post-war America, pretending that organized crime did not exist on these shores.

So even if Bobby Kennedy had been appalled in 1962 to learn that the CIA had tapped a reviled mobster to call in a hit on Castro, the idea of an alliance between these supposed white hats and black hats could hardly have been a surprise to him.


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