FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

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FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:26 pm

11.30.2017:

Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:

We who are Members of Mr. Willem Dankbaar's JFKMS Forum are Members of what I believe is the best, finest, most improving overall, and longest running Freedom of Speech oriented JFK Forum's. Yes, I am prejudice, since I have never contributed to another JFK Forum, Fake Book, Space Book, Link Em Up, or Tweety Bird. I usually agree approximately 90% with most Moderator's or Member's Contributing here. At times, people disagree with, or misjudge me. Such is life. I loose no sleep either way, and frankly laugh it off at times, and move on, never giving it a second thought. I am not that thin skinned. Trust me.

I do not intend to attack people or their thoughts here. But if you ask me about something that I am compelled to respond to, I am a Cards On the Table type of person who will tell it like it is, or is seen, but sometimes toned down a WEE BIT !

I have been criticized for comments that I have Posted here, sometimes given to me from others, THAT WERE IN FACT GREATLY TONED DOWN FROM THEIR ORIGINAL ATTACK ORIENTED FEROCIOUSNESS.

I WAS SIMPLY, DIPLOMATICALLY SEEKING TO BE PORTRAY THE COMBINED INPUT OF OTHERS AS MORE LEVEL HEADED. YOU BE THE JUDGE OF HOW WELL IT WORKED.

MOVING ON:

Looking through the Prism of your own analyses, readings, research, study, thought process, and writings,

WHAT IS YOUR:

* Flow Chart for the Removal of JFK ?

* Sequential Time Line Analysis of the developmental Process that led to the Removal of JFK ?

* Flow Chart for the Agencies for the Removal of JFK, with believed or referenced dates of Conception ?

* Flow Chart for the Actors for the Removal of JFK, with believed or referenced dates of Conception ?

Opinions will vary from extreme Right to Extreme Left.

Let's agree to cast Zero Attacks. Let's be open minded, and listen to all thought processes presented.

If you think LHO was the Lone Nut Assassin, say so openly and freely.

If you think LHO was a patsy, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the CIA, say of openly and freely.

If you think it was the FBI, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was LBJ, say so openly and freely.

We all might be more interested in the facts presented, the reasoning, and the thought processes.

The Top Down Approach is My Focus of Study, along with our Advisory Group. With No Disrespect, I have Zero Interest in the Bottom Up Approach.

But if you are any variety of Bottom Up Approach, state so.

54+ years have passed since the Successful Removal of JFK.

What can we assemble and present here over time ?

This is Intended to Create and Provide a Focus Group, THAT IS GOAL DIRECTED.

If it helps or works, Great. If not I shall try another approach later on down the Road of Life.
(11.30.2017, BB.)

As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.

Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?

Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.

Comments ?

Respectfully,
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Slav » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:54 am

If you think LHO was the Lone Nut Assassin, say so openly and freely.

If you think LHO was a patsy, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the CIA, say of openly and freely.

If you think it was the FBI, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was LBJ, say so openly and freely.

We all might be more interested in the facts presented, the reasoning, and the thought processes.
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1. LHO was not the lone nut who ever thinks he could of been a lone nut and control the cover up and kill witnesses and commuted suicide via Ruby better check in at the funny farm for a long term stay.

2. No doubt LHO was a pasty, and then was ordered killed to protect the people involved because he knew everything.

3. Yes the CIA was controlling the whole hit and hired the mob to help out .

4 . Yes the FBI was behind the cover up and investigation

5. I believe LBJ since they were neighbours with Hoover has a party and invited Allen Dulles over and David Ferrie they had a orgy talked about how they all hated jfk, and since LBJ was already involved in other murders decided to throw out the idea to Hoover and Dulles and everyone agreed, Dulles got his contacts at the cia to get the wheels in motion, with Angelton and Phillips leading the way, they somehow convinced the secret service to get involved not all of them, and the military involved, my guess is 25,000.00 goes a long way in 1963 to everyone who participated, them Dulles of all people was placed on the warren commission making the plan and coverup very obvious along with all the sudden deaths, accudents , suicides, Oswald’s death, Dorthy Killigans death, Ruby death, then came RFK and JFK with no warren commission. With all the cia assasination of world leaders and the continued 50 year cover up only points to the only group possible of a cover up for 50 years the CIA, JFK was right he should of broke them into a thousand pieces, Jimmy Carter fired thousands of Agents I’m surprised he didn’t get wacked, now the CIA controls the world and is the New World Order.

This is what I have learned over the past 50 years following this case, the CIA is the real President and Trump is Vice President, even the director of the CIA has no control of the cia.
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FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:42 am

11.30.2017:

Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:

11.30.2017 - I originally Posted this Thought Provoking Headline and Supporting Material SEEKING TO DEVELOP A FOCUS GROUP.

12.01.2017 - Slav, an excellent, long time contributing, and well read JFKMS Forum Member Posted some of his partial thought process.

Slav, after "...what you have learned over the past 50 years following this case..." have you developed, outlined, and written your own FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK's REMOVAL IN AN INTER-RELATED, POSSIBLY A CAUSE AND EFFECT, AND SEQUENTIAL TIME LINE ANALYSIS FORMAT ?

DO YOU HAVE A FLOW CHART FOR THE AGENCIES, THE ACTOR'S, THE CAUSES, THE REASONS, AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE REMOVAL OF JFK IN A COHESIVE, INTER-RELATED, ORGANIZED, THOUGHT OUT FORMAT BASED UPON YOUR 50 YEARS OF READINGS, RESEARCH, AND WRITINGS ?

My Intention is to create and develop a Focus Group THAT IS GOAL DIRECTED, AND RESULT ORIENTED.
(12.01.2017, BB.)

As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.

Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?

Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.

Comments ?

Respectfully,
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Slav » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:23 am

No charts no flow charts or time line
The reasons are obvious, money , greed, control, war profits,wars , power, drugs, oil, banking.

To follow a case like this with all the information is very hard to keep track in charts and exact timelines require a lot of work.
I will never write a book or a movie, I am a concerned citizen who feels a duty to be informed with the truth and hope others will benifit from a group of people who have spent years following, I have been to Dealey Plaza once and felt lost in time and lost period in a daze that this could of happened, Dealey Plaza is a lot smaller that the photos show, if I was to get a rifle and shoot from any of the location I believe I would of been caught, the fact all the shooters had spotters and secret service id to direct people in the other direction, this can only have been done by the cia, the fact are the facts. The exact timing exact reasons why and exact players
Are in my opinion for the person who plans to document for a book. I don’t study from the top down or the bottom up I go in from the middle and look both ways to get all the answers, the world we live in today is a result of the jfk removal, people are living blind and can’t see the direction we are heading which way we are going how we got there and who is responsible, I have and will always follow the mess we are in today. It will only get worse like Bob Robert Francis Fox says to follow the money that is where the answer lie of who what when where why .

My goal and hope is that many more people read this board as it is like Bruce Says is the best JFK board and the only one I belong to. There are some schools that have a jfk course to study history of what happened.

The fact that JFK , RFK, MLK, John Lennon, JFK jr paid with there life’s trying to improve our conditions of life is what gets me to stay with this story forever.

I will leave the charts, timelines, reasons to the book authors and people like Oliver Stone it’s too much of a job for me to tackle on my own, it’s too big of an undertaking for me and my hard drives memory getting older, I have forgotten a lot over the years to be exact anymore, when I read something here a post from years ago I say to myself wow how can I forget that’s why I like reading the old post, there is a lot to remember and the only way is to document it on a computer which is too time consuming for me.

Years ago I was bothered like I lost a family member, today I feel relieved that I know what happen in my mind more than 90 percent and that’s good enough for me, when new info comes out it’s a bonus and helps to put more pieces of the puzzle together.

Until death does us part I will continue to look for more answers to finish the puzzle 100 percent with the best members of any board possible.
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Slav » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:11 am

Bruce I don’t think people misunderstand misjudge you , you know when you read a post sometimes it doesn’t always come out like you wanted it to, we know you mean the best for the forum and the members, a lot of members here are very dedicated to a life long quest as part of there life to follow this case, they are very emotional and sometimes take the wrong meaning or take what is said the wrong way , what we all have to remember is that we are all on the same team with the same goal and that we really don’t mean to offend anyone and that if something is written it should be read a few times to understand the writer true meaning keeping in mind there was no harm intended.
There is members probably who are offended that not all info is being given , questions are not being answered, and secret meetings and seminars are taking place without any invitations to some of the longest members here who I think such as Bob Robert Francis , Ken, Tommy , Wim and others. I guess they feel left out and there are probably sore feelings. These are my observations and are not meant to be any harm to anyone I could be wrong in my observations.

Together as a team we will succeed, we are a brotherhood and all should be treated the same as others, again I’m sure non of us mean any hard to anyone else or to you Bruce or JF,
Tommy even donated his ocean condo as a gift which I was shocked at the outstanding gesture and generosity.

Peace to all and let’s continue our brotherhood with no misunderstanding and remember we are all motivated for the same Reason.

Hopefully we can all be team players on the same team.
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FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:28 pm

12.01.2017:

Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:

11.30.2017 - I originally Posted this Sincere, Well Intentioned Headline, and Supporting Material.

09.27.2006 - I previously Posted the Very Sincere, Well Intentioned Headline, and Supporting Material about Initiating An Annual JFKMS Forum Meeting, like JFK Lancer, and JVB does.

Slav, Thank you for your Seemingly Sincere, and Well Intentioned Responses.

HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT COMPORT WITH THE HISTORY OF SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE RECEVED RELATIVE TO MY REQUESTS BEGINNING ON THE JFKMS FORUM ON 09.27.2006. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CHOSEN TO PROCEED THE WAY WITH HAVE, WITH SINCERE WELL WISHES TO ALL.

Only Bob Fox, Phil Dragoo, and Ken Murray have provided over 10,000 Emails and/or Phone Calls of Assistance, Help, Research, and Study over the last decade, UNCONDITIONALLY. (12.01.2017, BB.)

As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.

Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?

Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.

Comments ?

Respectfully,
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby kenmurray » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:39 pm

If anyone had a flow chart for the JFK removal in book/kindle edition/CD Rom would be Walt Brown's Master Chronology of the JFK Assassination which is equivalent to over 30,000 pages.!

https://www.amazon.com/Master-Chronolog ... B00FGCPY62
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Tom Bigg » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:08 pm

I'm looking forward to artificial intelligence which will eventually solve all the puzzles for the crime of the century. People have biases, they are emotional, they think a given politician was God's gift to the world or that he was a dastardly scumbag. There are varying education and intelligence levels, ability to process complicated information.

A flow chart would be an effective way to create a logical cause and effect system to make it easy for anyone to understand how the assassination came down.

I'm just wondering at what point the powers in intelligence figured the Kennedys had to go? I don't buy for a minute Kennedy's efforts for sound money as a reason. The insiders were infuriated by the Bay of Pigs disaster and how a bearded communist had taken over that casino playground and how the futures of so many Cubans was destroyed. I had a landlord who lost a great deal whose family was in the intelligensia, academic community there and lost everything. Talk about Cuban temper, the guy was a literal psycho, a real manipulator.

You had the higher ups at the CIA who were infuriated by JFK, some justly, some unjustly; but frankly the CIA had become a criminal organization with many skeletons in their closet. Dulles, McCone, Angleton, Helms, all knew the evil deeds that had been done for patriotic reasons. Potentially those "liberals" from Harvard could have challenged their power or exposed their dark deeds.

The MOB was being ruthlessly prosecuted by RFK after having pulled a lot of levers to get JFK elected. They were infuriated. Johnson was the most corrupt politician in DC, he was going down in flames soon had JFK not been killed with corruption scandals that were coming out.

You had the religious right, the Texas oil men who had huge stakes in opposing JFK, they didn't like the fact that he was a Roman Catholic, and may or may have heard that he was a flagrant adulterer which would sound the death knell for many religious people, as it is a mortal sin in the RC tradition and one of the things that southern Baptists consider grounds for many legal charges.

Kennedy had a lot of support and was treated as a celebrity, the youngest President a big break from tradition, who had kids while in office.

The question is when was the determination made that JFK had to be killed? Hoover had to be on the same page with the CIA, the Pentagon and other government heads, any strong dissent at the highest levels could have killed the plan.
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Bob » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:26 pm

Quick flow chart.

- Two who were definitely at the table at the outset of the plan to kill JFK were David Rockefeller and Allen Dulles.
- The assassination was financed by Big Banking and Big Oil.
- Big Banking was upset about changes to the Federal Reserve, while Big Oil was also pissed (oil depletion allowance).
- The CIA and the Military Industrial Complex were not happy regarding JFK's policies in Cuba and Southeast Asia.
- The Mob was not happy because RFK was going after them with zeal.
- The primary assassination planners in the CIA/MIC were James Jesus Angleton, Richard Helms, Edward Lansdale and David Atlee Phillips.
- Poppy Bush also had a subsidiary role, as he was the main recruiter for Operation 40, the CIA assassination team.
- The actual assassination was orchestrated by the CIA/Mob, with assistance from the Secret Service.
- The Secret Service (Roy Kellerman and Bill Greer) played a big role in the coverup regarding JFK's autopsy.
- The FBI (namely J. Edgar Hoover) covered up the assassination and placed blame on the patsy, Lee Harvey Oswald.
- The U.S. government and the MSM have also covered up the real truth regarding the assassination.
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Postby bobspez » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 pm

I agree with the motives and persons and groups named above.

I would just add to Slav's list of those assassinated my belief that Chappaquiddick was an attempted assassination of Teddy Kennedy. I think that is the reason he swam away from the "accident" and hid until he could get his people there to protect him. Ted had been making statements about getting ready to run for the presidency. I think he was targeted for the same reasons as JFK/MLK/RFK and by the same people. Having survived, it was no longer necessary to get rid of him because his chances to be president died with Mary Jo Kopechne.

Adding to Slav's list, a similar assassination to Dorothy KIllgallen's was Jessica Savitch's. I have been to the restaurant and the parking lot in New Hope, PA. where her car was found upside down in the canal with her and her drowned dog. The canal is so narrow that the car doors could not be opened. It seems impossible for the car to have wound up there wedged into the canal upside down, as a result of an accident driving out of the parking lot. From my viewpoint, only several men or a forklift lifting the car to the edge of the canal, then tipping it over could have created that scenario.

Jessica's last broadcast was about the Vatican bankers' connection to South American dictators. She filmed a scene where a Vatican emissary got off the plane in a South American country and the president of the country got down on both knees on the tarmac to kiss the emissary's hand.

Looking for a top down approach of the assasination of JFK, going back several generations you had Harriman and Poppy Bush's father, who worked for Harriman, financing Adolph Hitler's rise to power. After WWII you had the Vatican creating a pipeline for ex Nazi's to emigrate to South American countries and live out their lives in mock Bavarian villages with their fellow emigres. And you have the Dulles brothers recruiting the entire Nazi intelligence network to fight communism, and V2 Rocket creator Wernher von Braun and his crew of engineers and scientists to head up our space program.

Going back a bit further, the Russian Revolution created a threat to the entire European and British aristocracy. As well as the American aristocracy. These ruling families were tied together through international banking, wealth, upbringing, education and bloodlines. The whole social order of aristocracy and inherited wealth was suddenly threatened by a Revolution in which a hand full of peasants seized control of one the major powers on earth. So the big danger to the traditional aristocracy and their control of the great powers was communism.

This is why Harriman financed Hitler. And why the Dulles brothers and the Catholic church protected, relocated and employed scores of ex Nazis after the war. They defeated the Nazi's and then employed their methods and goals of world domination under the new banner of Democracy, but it was just fascism with a new label. None of the CIA operations and regime changes around the world created democracies. They installed those leaders who would play ball with us and exploit their own people and natural resources for the benefit of our corporations, and purchase billions of dollars worth of our military hardware to maintain their control. The CIA promoted fascism here and abroad since WWII. The ruling powers and organizations in the US abhored the idea of Communist takeover in Europe, South America and Asia. They weren't (and still aren't) protecting democracy, they are protecting the power structure that goes back a hundred years or more. That is who killed JFK and why.
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Postby Slav » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:20 am

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60567/pg1

Who controls all Presidents, and the CIA ?

MJ12 the shadow Government.
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Postby Slav » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:53 am

In 1962 a member of MJ -12 was member MJ1 the head of MJ12 in 1962 made a recommendation to the other members of MJ12 that the president was interfering with there secret policies and wanted details of the secret programs, MJ-1 said that the president should be eliminated, MJ1 name was Allen Dulles.

The First Leader of MJ 12 was going to leak the secrets to the public, he was assasinated thrown out of a window from the 16th floor he was the secretary of defence his name was James Forrestal.

The shadow government still controls everything.
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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby dankbaar » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:11 pm

If you think LHO was the Lone Nut Assassin, say so openly and freely.

If you think LHO was a patsy, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the CIA, say of openly and freely.

If you think it was the FBI, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was LBJ, say so openly and freely.


This needs to be enhanced:

If you think LHO was the Lone Nut Assassin, say so openly and freely.

If you think LHO was a patsy, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was Castro, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the Russian KGB, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the CIA, say of openly and freely.

If you think it was the Mob, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the FBI, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was LBJ, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was Hoover, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the anti Castro Cubans, say so openly and freely.

If you think it was the oil barons,say so openly and freely.

It was the CIA, the Mob, the anti Castro Castro Cubans, the oil barons, LBJ and Hoover and their allies, all previously mentioned. All tightly brothers in arms.
The allies of evil are ignorance, apathy and the wish to not believe.
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FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:54 pm

12.02.2017:

Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:

11.30.2017 - I sincerely, and humbly, with the Most Well Meaning of Intentions, originally Posted This Thought Provoking Headline, and Supporting Material.

BUT THIS IS OUR JFKMS FORUM FLOW CHART - THAT IS WHAT I SOUGHT TO ACHIEVE FOR ALL OF US.

Since then, SOME OF OUR VERY BEST AND BRIGHTEST HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR FLOW CHART.

Slav, Ken Murray, Tom Bigg, Bob Fox, bobspez, and of course last, but not least, OUR ESTEEMED JFKMS FORUM CREATOR, AND DEVELOPER, MR. WILLEM DANKBAAR.

Each of us, and so many more, have contributed decades of analyses, reading, research, study, and writings to The JFK Removal, and Related Subject Matters.

Each of us has a different interest, and perspective. That is to be expected. Sometimes we each get tunnel vision.

My thought process was that hopefully here we can Collect and Develop with the Search Engine Benefits, and the Combined Synergy of the JFKMS Forum OUR OWN MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE CAN ALL CONTRIBUTE TO, AND TAKE PART IN.

My Own Personal Interest is from the Top Down Approach. Slav your Majestic Twelve Material, and bobspez, your highly focused, very intelligent, well thought out, and precisely written contributions greatly fascinate, and interest me personally.

But each of us can contribute as we each deem of interest, necessary, and relevant from our own perspective(s).

My thoughts. (12.02.2017, BB.)

As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.

Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?

Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.

Comments ?

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Re: FLOW CHART FOR CAUSES AND REASONS OF JFK'S REMOVAL:

Postby Tom Bigg » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:13 am

I'd like to see a comprehensive flow chart, starting with the almost certain to the theoretical.

Hunt provided a primitive flow chart based on his information. Image
http://i.imgur.com/ecyxn4B.jpg

Also you could assemble a FAQ on the assassination.

Here is an example of an excellent FAQ on tax protester theories for example: https://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

The idea is to create a tree of logic that helps educate people and clear up confusion.
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