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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Slav » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:24 am

Tommy sometimes what is said in writing is not always what is meant it comes out different, I know your personality well you are a very fair good hearted person that means well, I mean who would offer there Florida ocean front condo as a gift to someone who getting married, heck if you threw in the tbird I was going to get married and find a wife name Pam just to use the condo and tbird that shows what type of person you are, I’m sure there is misunderstanding here sometimes with the wording or the meaning of what is said, I sure everyone involved means well to each other, as for getting a life well I saw it on tv when it happened I saw mlk and rfk also and have been hooked for life, somehow I got a life sentence , that doesn’t mean I don’t have a life, sometimes I wish that I could turn it off and not think about and not caring what happened years ago but I can’t , everything all the bad around us all the wars everything is connected to that day in Dallas to understand Dallas is to understand today tomorrow and the future. I wish I had no life I would be sitting next door to Tommy’s condo having an ice cold Dr Pepper which I started drinking in 1960s and watching the views now that would be a great life.

Bob is right this will blow over we’re all on the same side and we all don’t mean any harm to each other.

Tommy I will ask my wife if she can change her name to Pam and if we could get married again, I will let you know. Now back to my regular routine more Dr Pepper more fake news .
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:07 am

Once again I thank you Slav.I do believe you have described me bullseye on !! And I appreciate and thank you for your kind words !!!
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Tom Bigg » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:52 am

I'll have to come up with a sob sorry worthy of a JJ Angleton or Allen Dulles planning, that will have sympathetic souls wiring me lots of money out of obligation, lol.
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:47 am

Slav wrote:Tommy sometimes what is said in writing is not always what is meant it comes out different, I know your personality well you are a very fair good hearted person that means well, I mean who would offer there Florida ocean front condo as a gift to someone who getting married, heck if you threw in the tbird I was going to get married and find a wife name Pam just to use the condo and tbird that shows what type of person you are, I’m sure there is misunderstanding here sometimes with the wording or the meaning of what is said, I sure everyone involved means well to each other, as for getting a life well I saw it on tv when it happened I saw mlk and rfk also and have been hooked for life, somehow I got a life sentence , that doesn’t mean I don’t have a life, sometimes I wish that I could turn it off and not think about and not caring what happened years ago but I can’t , everything all the bad around us all the wars everything is connected to that day in Dallas to understand Dallas is to understand today tomorrow and the future. I wish I had no life I would be sitting next door to Tommy’s condo having an ice cold Dr Pepper which I started drinking in 1960s and watching the views now that would be a great life.

Bob is right this will blow over we’re all on the same side and we all don’t mean any harm to each other.

Tommy I will ask my wife if she can change her name to Pam and if we could get married again, I will let you know. Now back to my regular routine more Dr Pepper more fake news .


There is something about being with a Pam. I've been married to my Pam for over 31 years. Just saying her name is nice. Ask Kramer. 8)

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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Slav » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:54 am

Ok Bob I’m calling you out , first you have JFK birthday and now you have a Pam , I’m afraid I’m going to need some proof your full of coincidences lol, Tommy what do you think, I need Ken to do a search on you.
Is that your wedding picture ?
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:13 am

Slav wrote:Ok Bob I’m calling you out , first you have JFK birthday and now you have a Pam , I’m afraid I’m going to need some proof your full of coincidences lol, Tommy what do you think, I need Ken to do a search on you.
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Indeed it is.

You also forgot that I have RFK's first two names...Robert Francis. 8)
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Phil Dragoo » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:08 pm

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Antonioni's Blow-Up (1966) presented a covert assassination revealed by a curious photographer working feverishly in his darkroom

only to have his evidence stolen leaving him to return an imaginary tennis ball to a rolling company of mimes--

In the fall of 1963

I was sitting in James Johnson's English class as he told of Thoreau desiring there be as many individuals as possible.

And thus we see it presented here on the JFK Murder Solved Forum.

Since that day I have acquired bookcases on the Crime of the Twentieth Century.

James Files presents as credible in his interviews.

His account conforms to David Mantik's right temple entry

which left a stream of metal--possibly mercury--on the right lateral skull x-ray

and blew out the Harper Fragment--which the FBI lost--after it was photographed and x-rayed.

While Files knows of no other shooter, Mantik concludes an initial occipital entry--

--which may have been Nicoletti from the Dal-Tex as Files suggested--

and a right forehead (at apex of inverted-vee incision in Stare of Death photo)

from South Knoll per Sherry Fiester

Compartmentalization, need-to-know--this is the hallmark of military, intelligence, organized crime--

and Files is a product of all three streams

The point of disinformation is conflict, cognitive dissonance

JFK is dead and he didn't commit suicide

nor did the man not in the window who did not fire a rifle inflict the fatal frontal shot from behind.

Files' account conforms to a Bothun inset using a Bob Fox transcription:

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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:28 pm

Phil Dragoo wrote:Image

Antonioni's Blow-Up (1966) presented a covert assassination revealed by a curious photographer working feverishly in his darkroom

only to have his evidence stolen leaving him to return an imaginary tennis ball to a rolling company of mimes--

In the fall of 1963

I was sitting in James Johnson's English class as he told of Thoreau desiring there be as many individuals as possible.

And thus we see it presented here on the JFK Murder Solved Forum.

Since that day I have acquired bookcases on the Crime of the Twentieth Century.

James Files presents as credible in his interviews.

His account conforms to David Mantik's right temple entry

which left a stream of metal--possibly mercury--on the right lateral skull x-ray

and blew out the Harper Fragment--which the FBI lost--after it was photographed and x-rayed.

While Files knows of no other shooter, Mantik concludes an initial occipital entry--

--which may have been Nicoletti from the Dal-Tex as Files suggested--

and a right forehead (at apex of inverted-vee incision in Stare of Death photo)

from South Knoll per Sherry Fiester

Compartmentalization, need-to-know--this is the hallmark of military, intelligence, organized crime--

and Files is a product of all three streams

The point of disinformation is conflict, cognitive dissonance

JFK is dead and he didn't commit suicide

nor did the man not in the window who did not fire a rifle inflict the fatal frontal shot from behind.

Files' account conforms to a Bothun inset using a Bob Fox transcription:

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Nice work once again, Phil. I had a conference call today with Bruce and Jimmy. Based on that conversation, I am now convinced that the wound above JFK's right eye near the hairline was not an entrance wound, but an exit wound from Jimmy's mercury round, just like the throat wound. The doctors not knowing that a mercury round (exploding bullet) was used, would have thought that both the hairline wound and the throat wound were small entrance wounds. By the way, the doctors never recovered a bullet from the hairline wound, nor from the throat wound. If you look at Thom Robinson's notes from the autopsy, please see that Robinson notes that there were a couple of small shrapnel wounds on JFK's face, which would coincide with the small throat wound and the small hairline wound, which to me is the exiting shrapnel from Jimmy's mercury round. Both Bruce and Jimmy agreed with my synopsis.

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For those of you who believe the throat wound was an entrance wound, take a good look at the Zapruder film. You never see a throat wound or any blood, even in close up. What you see is JFK raising his fists upward to his head and neck area, which I believe was a reaction to a back wound. The reason I say that, is that I also have back problems like JFK did. I suffered five herniated discs in my bad auto accident. Whenever I am accidentally poked in the back, my fists immediately fly up towards my head or neck area, just like JFK did after he was shot in the back.

Robinson also told Wim that he saw the doctors trace JFK's massive head wound to his throat during the autopsy. Let's also not forget that Robinson was present for both the pre-autopsy procedure and the actual autopsy. The v-shape that Phil mentioned earlier, was made in the pre-autopsy procedure to cover up what they thought was a small entrance wound to the hairline, plus the throat wound was expanded to make it look like an exit wound from behind. Ironically, the throat wound was an exit wound, but it was not from a rifle shot from behind, but rather shrapnel from Jimmy's mercury round.
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:36 pm

Also, Jimmy confirmed to me today that Jack Ruby was in the grassy knoll area, but he was in front of the picket fence, not behind it. The man who Lee Bowers saw near Jimmy behind the picket fence was not Ruby, although that person did resemble Ruby's body type.
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Tom Bigg » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:49 pm

OK, thanks for the rigorous updates. So the fist sized occipital part of JFK's skull blown out wasn't from the Fireball? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bone I was thinking that when they found chunks of his skull on the grassy other side of the road a day or so later, that could have been tested for remnants of the mercury bullet. Not sure what happened to that.
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Bob » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:00 am

Tom Bigg wrote:OK, thanks for the rigorous updates. So the fist sized occipital part of JFK's skull blown out wasn't from the Fireball? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bone I was thinking that when they found chunks of his skull on the grassy other side of the road a day or so later, that could have been tested for remnants of the mercury bullet. Not sure what happened to that.


Yes, the the fist-sized wound in the back of the head was from Jimmy's Fireball. But between the simultaneous shot from Chuck Nicoletti from behind and the mercury round (exploding bullet) from the Fireball, the head wound was unbelievably horrific, both to witness and to see afterwards.
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:14 am

WOW this is some outstanding research and every single thing that has been written here sounds plausible .And most likely was what happened. Now my question is whats going to come from all this.James Files said this happened and Bruce Brycheck agreed and some of the most valued members here on this Forum who have years and years of research on this case agreed that this is what happened so now where does that lead us ? What's the next step were do we go from here ??
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Re: Conflicting versions on grassy knoll/fence shooter

Postby Slav » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:13 am

I believe James and Nicolletti shots, but I also believe there was a front shot threw the windshield threw the throat as the doctor said who was told to lie, that came from the south knoll.

This is my belief

1. Who was the heavy set guy near Files if it wasn’t Ruby?

If someone was shot in the throat with a regular bullet the only thing you would get is a small entrance hole just like his back

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