HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

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HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:42 am

11.05.2017:

Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:

FORMER CIA DIRECTOR RICHARD HELMS ALLEGED THAT LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT.

HELMS PROFESSIONAL MANTRA WAS: "NEVER PUT ANYTHING IN WRITING." (11.05.2017, BB.)

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Tantalizing mystery of missing JFK assassination file solved — 23 years ago
By Ian Shapira November 2 at 4:00 AM

President John F. Kennedy, left, was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, by Lee Harvey Oswald, a former Marine who was killed two days later by nightclub owner Jack Ruby. (AP).

Of the 2,800 files related to John F. Kennedy’s assassination released last week, one document seemed especially juicy.

It was a previously classified 1975 deposition of former CIA director Richard Helms before the President’s Commission on CIA Activities in which Helms was asked about Lee Harvey Oswald, the former Marine who shot Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas. Oswald himself was killed by nightclub owner Jack Ruby at Dallas police headquarters on live television, fueling decades of conspiracy theories.

The 1975 testimony, taken by the commission’s counsel, David Belin, cut off right at the most tantalizing part.

MR. BELIN: Well, now, the final area of my interrogation relates to charges that the CIA was in some way conspiratorially involved with the assassination of President Kennedy. During the time of the Warren Commission, you were Deputy Director of Plans, is that correct?

MR. HELMS: I believe so.

MR. BELIN: Is there any information involved with the assassination of President Kennedy which in any way shows that Lee Harvey Oswald was in some way a CIA agent or an age[nt]…

Several news organizations, including The Washington Post, seized on the truncated file as an example of the government’s continued secrecy about the assassination.

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The Sun newspaper in Britain wrote an article breathlessly headlined: COVER-UP? JFK files CUT OUT CIA director’s reply to whether Lee Harvey Oswald was a secret agent…so will we ever know the truth?” The Huffington Post reported the cut-off document and speculated that if Oswald had been a CIA agent, “it would stoke even more confusion” because of Oswald’s reported meeting with a KGB officer in Mexico City nearly two months before the assassination. The New York Times also found the abruptly finished document fascinating, saying it “may add to the questions” fueling conspiracy theories about the killing.

On Twitter, the suspicious-looking deposition also earned some attention. After the faux account of President Richard M. Nixon tweeted about the Kennedy files, one user replied: “Sir, have you seen the partial deposition of the Richard Helms that mysteriously cuts off?”

Here’s the thing, though. The rest of the deposition was released. Just not in this latest batch. The full testimony was declassified in 1994, according to the Mary Ferrell Foundation, which has been monitoring and writing about the Kennedy assassination records for years. So, what did Helms say?

The rest of Belin’s question asked Helms whether Oswald was an “agent of the FBI or any other Government agency?” Here is how Helms responds:

MR. HELMS: Mr. Belin, this question, and I think you may recall this, was raised at the time and the Agency was never able to find any evidence whatsoever, and we really searched that it had any contact with Lee Harvey Oswald. As far as the FBI was concerned, my recollection is not all that precise. I believe that Mr. Hoover testified that he had not been an agent of theirs either. He was certainly not an agent of the CIA. He was certainly never used by the CIA. Whether any CIA officer ever talked to him any place or not I don’t know but I certainly felt quite comfortable — I believe Mr. [John] McCone [a previous CIA director] was asked to testify before the Commission on this point. I believe he was asked to testify. It was a hot item anyway at the time. And my recollection is that I informed Mr. McCone that we could find no evidence that Oswald had any connection with the CIA.

Belin didn’t challenge Helms any further on the matter. Instead, he pivoted and asked whether the CIA had withheld any information from the Warren Commission.

As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.

Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?

Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.

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Respectfully,
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:31 am

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
All Cia hired assasins
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby kenmurray » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:01 pm

Yeah Right. Read Oswald And The CIA will prove that he was !

https://www.amazon.com/Oswald-CIA-Docum ... dpSrc=srch
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:12 pm

Ye and neither was George de Mohrenschildt ??? Unbelievable how gullible they take people for !!!
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:47 pm

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 0027-6.pdf

Anyone who was part in the jfk big event was not in the cia , sure
Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
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Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:48 pm

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:50 pm

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:52 pm

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:59 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYGe-95FAk


Watch video look at letter

The Denial from the cia that Oswald wasn’t a cia agent is proof enough that the cia did it and helped covered it and and still covering it up after all these years.
Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:08 am

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:40 am

We have someone alive today that knows LHO worked for the CIA and that his handler was Phillips and that LHO was supposed to be killed within 30 minutes after Kennedy.
This info has never made it into the MSM, this is a blockbuster.


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JF - No, the Tippit killing is not related to the murder of Kennedy. If you want to get right down to it. The Tippit killing is related to Oswald. Because Oswald is the one that was supposed to die. Not Tippit. Tippit was just one of those people that stopped the wrong person, that got called into the wrong place. And when he got to ask the wrong party something, and you've got an officer in Round Lake Beach by the name of David Ostertag, when he goes out and gives his story, as he talks, he tells people how careful they have to be, these young recruits, cause you never know who you're stopping. Somebody should have given that talk to J.D. Tippit. Because he stopped the wrong party that got him killed.

J - So the party that killed Tippit though, was actually after …

JF - He was after Lee Harvey Oswald.

J - Okay, make a statement.

JF - Okay. The party that killed J.D. Tippit, he wasn't there to kill J.D. Tippit. He had parked a little ways from Oswald's boarding house. They went down there to kill Oswald. They wanted to kill Oswald. They didn't want to make a big spectacle out of it. They wanted to silence him at that point of the game. Before anybody could get to him. But I guess … I don't know if Lee got spooked or whatever it was, but then he went to theatre. And he knew who he was going to when he left there, because he was supposed to meet the controller there. Which is David Atlee Phillips. He was the one that was supposed to be at the theatre as far as I understand.

W - How do you know?

JF - Because I knew that's where he was supposed to be. I knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was going to go meet him …aah ..

J - Start over! It was my understanding that he was meeting his handler …

JF - It was my understanding that Lee Harvey Oswald when this was over with, that he was going to be in contact with David Atlee Phillips. I did not know that David Phillips was going to be at the theatre, but I knew Oswald was going to go meet him. …….. Let me start over again, I'm lost now!

W- It was my understanding ….

JF - My understanding was that Lee, that he was gonna meet his controller, which is David Phillips, who was my controller. He was gonna meet him. I didn't know it was gonna be at the theatre. I have no knowledge of that at that point. But if Lee Harvey Oswald ran to a theatre, that had to be where the meeting was going to take place. Lee must have left his house earlier or for whatever reason, I don't really know, but the party that went there, didn't find Lee there. And when he started to leave, he was stopped by the police. This is when he shot Tippit. What transpired there I can't tell you, who saw this guy there, I can't tell you whether he ran, I can't tell you whether he walked, I don't know. All I understand is this: A party that I know, that had come by my motelroom, told me he had to burn a cop. The cop he burned was J.D. Tippit. That was the only cop killed in Dallas that day, it had to be the one that he burned. At this point he says: "Here, do you want to get rid of that? " I said: " Hell no, you take care and get rid of your own weapon! I've got my own problems, Get out of here. Go! "

J - What kind of weapon was it?

JF - It was a … I didn't … I think it was a 38 revolver. I'm not sure, I couldn't swear that, I didn't handle it, I didn't touch it. He just had it in his hand, he pulled it out and handed to me. I said: I don't want it, take it out of here!.

J - Well, you know the difference between a revolver and an automatic …

JF - Yeah, he had a revolver he was gonna hand me.

W - How did you know that Lee was supposed to meet his contact?

JF - When it comes down to the part that this guy was going for Lee Harvey Oswald, the connection is this: Lee Harvey Oswald had just spent five days with me, Lee Harvey Oswald knew who I was, he knew I was in town, he knew what just happened, he was tied to me basically drastically. When I talked to Charles Nicoletti that morning, I told him this: I said: We 've got a slight problem. And he asked me: What's that, Jimmy? I said: Lee Harvey Oswald. At that time Mr. Nicoletti said: "Jimmy, who is Lee Oswald? I never heard of this guy!" I said he works with the Agency, that he is one of David Atlee Phillips' people. Chuck didn't know who David Phillips was. And I told him he is a tie back to me. I am a tie back to you! I said: This makes me nervous. I'm concerned about it! Mr
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Slav » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:44 am

Who shot JFK - Files, Nicoletti,Roselli, Jack Lawrence, Frank Sturgis, Roscoe White, and a few others
Who shot MLK- police officer Frank Strausser.
Who shot RFK - Thane Caesar
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Tom Bigg » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:58 pm

At one point the Helms questioning was not answered; according to Nixon Helms knew about all the criminal activities of the CIA. He was a professional liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA
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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby Bob » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:49 pm

Uh huh. Sure. That's believable. :roll: :oops:

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Re: HELMS: LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS NOT A CIA OR FBI AGENT:

Postby kenmurray » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:48 am

Why CIA's Richard Helms Lied About Oswald:

https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/23/why-c ... ialWarfare
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