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How do you rate the credibility of J. Bartell and his website www.onlinejustice.org ?

he may have a point
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he has the truth on his side
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he is conman of the worst order
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Postby dankbaar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:23 pm

No, but the main IP address for the website is

206.251.235.84

Follow the drill below:


http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=231



http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/r ... oistoken=0

Result for onlinejustice.org


go to IP Address: 206.251.235.84 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)


Then do the IP address tracking here:


http://aruljohn.com/track.html


See the result for the hostname:



IP Address Tracking Program
Results of IP Tracking for 206.251.235.84


IP address 206.251.235.84
Hostname cybersoup-206-251-235-84.adnc.com
ISP American Digital Network
Country United States

« track another IP address
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Postby Jim Thompson » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:31 pm

dankbaar wrote:No, but the main IP address for the website is
206.251.235.84


Is the e-mail IP: 206.251.235.?? ? In other words is Bartell using this server?
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Postby dankbaar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:37 pm

No, he's using another IP addres for email.

But the IP for Cybersoup.com is 206.251.235.26

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/r ... oistoken=6

Hence the same server as onlinejustice.org

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Just Curious

Postby Jim Thompson » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:48 pm

dankbaar wrote:No, he's using another IP addres for email.

But the IP for Cybersoup.com is 206.251.235.26

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/r ... oistoken=6

Hence the same server as onlinejustice.org

Wim


Right... So, just wondering, why is J.B. using a different IP for e-mail? Also, does Tony Roozeboom know about J.B.'s statements about him? It seems like J.B.'s website is violation of CyberSoup's rules.
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Postby dankbaar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:57 pm

CyberSoup's rules

Which are?
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Rules

Postby Jim Thompson » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:54 pm

dankbaar wrote:CyberSoup's rules Which are?


(c) hate propaganda;
(d) fraudulent material or fraudulent activity;
(e) any material that is threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, deemed to be vulgar, obscene, profane, indecent, or otherwise objectionable or inappropriate, all as determined by CYBERSOUP at its sole discretion;
(f) any material that promotes, encourages, or provides instructional information about illegal activities;

http://souptown.com/main_site_pages/terms.html
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Postby dankbaar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:22 pm

Okay,

Nothing amazes me anymore ;)

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Postby dankbaar » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:38 pm

See below some more hatemail from J Bartell.

Wim




Web site hosted by J. Bartell / www.Cybersoup.com

Bartell/Cybersoup is behind this libelous website :


http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=231

here's the proof:

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/r ... oistoken=0


go to IP Address: 206.251.235.84 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)


Then do the IP address tracking here:


http://aruljohn.com/track.html


See the result for the hostname:



IP Address Tracking Program
Results of IP Tracking for 206.251.235.84


IP address 206.251.235.84
Hostname cybersoup-206-251-235-84.adnc.com
ISP American Digital Network
Country United States


Cybersoup.com, troubleshooterjudd.com (sites hosted by Cybersoup with IP address 206.251.235.26) and onlinejustice.org all use the same ISP and basic IP address. I got this confirmation also from the ISP. They confirmed to me that the IP address of the slanderwebsite is given out to and used by Cybersoup. There contact data are:

OrgName: American Digital Network
OrgID: ADN
Address: 9725 Scranton Road
City: San Diego
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92121
Country: US

OrgNOCHandle: NOC259-ARIN
OrgNOCName: NOC
OrgNOCPhone: +1-858-576-4272
OrgNOCEmail: routing@adnc.com

Mr. Bartell denies that he is behind the website. This is a provable lie. He claims that other people erected the website and that he has no power to do anything about it. In fact, Bartell is doing it entirely on his own or directing stooges in a vain attempt to create some plausible denial. He definitely provides the webspace for the website. He has also admitted in writing that he has the power to take the website down, which he refuses to do despite many requests. He does not deny that he is Mr. X described on this webpage:

http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=233

Here are just a few fragments of his many emails that expose his lies and intentions to libel:

I am now sending every email you have sent me to "contact@onlinejustice.org". I will let you and them work it out.

****************

6) Please file your complaint.
Because I will have every news show, TV and Radio at the court house
covering the story. And boy do I have the connections to get it
done. "Is Wim Dankbaar" a child porn master along with his partner
Tony and his kid. There are doing a big child porn story up north.
They will be happy to cover you and Tony.

*********************

Pretty soon I would think your story will be all over the internet. I wonder how many children will be saved. Maybe even your own.

******************

In Nov. you will not only jailed for child porn, but you will meet someone that will cause you to lose the money for the JFK project.

Happy days are here again.

Blocked

*********************


To Tony Roozeboom:

2) If I did make a mistake regarding what you told me at that
meeting, and you can prove it to me, I will contact the people at the
website and ask them to take down anything about you.

*********************

BTW: A little information about the Internet.
There are tens of thousands of hosting companies. Hosting companies
host their clients’ websites and hosting companies are not libel
through terms and conditions agreements for the content of the
websites they service. So if you have a problem with a website take
it up with the owners of the site and not the company hosting it.
It’s the website owner who has control of what they put on their site.

******************************

One more email exchange below:

Bartell: And did you know that the company that owns and runs the website,
have indi. reporters etc. that do the stories. They are not doing
anything but hosting the stores.

Dankbaar: I know the "company" that runs the website is you, that you just erected it (because there are no Google matches) and that the "reporters" do not exist. There is one fictional name there, Douglas Morrissey, who can't be contacted. There is not even a telephone number for this "investigation company". You really need to make your scams more credible to make 'm wash. I really had to laugh about this one too: NOTE: Mr. Dankbaar was contacted regarding this case. We are waiting for his response.

****************

In short, this man is a deranged compulsive liar and a scam artist.

Wim Dankbaar
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Abuse

Postby Jim Thompson » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:35 pm

dankbaar wrote:I am now sending every email you have sent me to "contact@onlinejustice.org". I will let you and them work it out.


Hey Wim,

Send an ABUSE complaint to CyberSoup AND to the company which leases the IP number to CyberSoup:


> 09/28/06 13:26:29 IP block 206.251.235.84
> Trying 206.251.235.84 at ARIN
> Trying 206.251.235 at ARIN
>
> OrgName: American Digital Network
> OrgID: ADN
> Address: 9725 Scranton Road
> City: San Diego
> StateProv: CA
> PostalCode: 92121
> Country: US
>
> NetRange: 206.251.224.0 - 206.251.255.255
> CIDR: 206.251.224.0/19
> NetName: ADN-WEST
> NetHandle: NET-206-251-224-0-1
> Parent: NET-206-0-0-0-0
> NetType: Direct Allocation
> NameServer: NS1.ADNC.NET
> NameServer: NS2.ADNC.NET
> Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE.
> RegDate: 1996-02-29
> Updated: 2002-12-13
>
> RTechHandle: NAM1-ARIN
> RTechName: Montante, Nick Alan
> RTechPhone: +1-858-576-4272
> RTechEmail: nmontante@adnc.com
>
> OrgNOCHandle: NOC259-ARIN
> OrgNOCName: NOC
> OrgNOCPhone: +1-858-576-4272
> OrgNOCEmail: routing@adnc.com
>
> OrgTechHandle: RJS119-ARIN
> OrgTechName: Sears, Richard James
> OrgTechPhone: +1-858-576-4272
> OrgTechEmail: rsears@adnc.com
>
> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-09-27 19:10
:idea: :!:
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Postby dankbaar » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:09 pm

Interesting read:

http://www.montyroberts.com/news_media_ ... es_cj.html

If you replace http://citizensforjustice.org/interface/index.php for

http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=231

both authored by J Bartell and hosted by one of the greatest Internet companies called www.Cybersoup.com,

and if you further replace "Monty" with "Wim",

then I could have written virtually the same thing.

There's however still a difference between Monty and Wim: Monty did already win a REAL case against Bartell:

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/deci ... -0299.html

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Postby ton roozeboom » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:15 pm

From: Tony Roozeboom
To: j@cybersoup.com
Cc: dank@xs4all.nl
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:22 PM
Subject: The show is over!!!!


You conned the wrong man J. Bartell, why don't you admit it. The show is over.
When my good friend Wim Dankbaar told me the story about what you had to offer and what he already gave you for it i smelled a rat. Wim has a hard time believing that there are real evil people that do anything for financial gain and do not care about destroying people if that's helps their game work.
When i was in L.A. i visited you in Chatsworth California to convince myself i was right. I told you in your face i thought the story was bogus and asked you to explain it to me . The story differed a lot from what you told Wim and i concluded you were lying all the way.
Then you said to me you bought a camera from a friend who was in the porn business and that Chatsworth is the porn capital of the world, i told you that i made a documentary about the adult film industry for Dutch T.V..
The next day you accuse Wim to be a child abuser and i am his porn movie maker friend.
All this to make Wim afraid to file a law suit to get the money back that you swindled out of his pockets
Well J, Wim and i love our children we hate child abusers and don't make porn movies and we are not one little bit impressed by your lying and twisting of the facts.
And look , there are more victims coming out of the woodwork Mr. Monty Roberts who you try to get $90.000 lighter with another hate web side 7 years ago.
You would make an excellent subject for a documentary about career criminals but then we have to use the
recorder again and you hate that because you can not twist it around anymore.
So, get ready for your court appearance and please with your IQ no more lies , the judge look right tru them.
Wim,get your money back and move on, forget this lying bastard.

Tony Roozeboom

From a member of Wim's forum. Right on the mark:


If Bartell is the owner of CyberSoup, but NOT the author of the disgusting website, then Bartell must be horrified & embarrassed that his business would sponsor such garbage. In self business interest he would ax the website to preserve CyberSoup's business reputation. Yes?
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Postby dankbaar » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:44 am

Last night Mr. Bartell offered me an "agreement" by email to take the website down. However, he asked something in return.

Mr. Bartell is of the opinion that I am "spreading lies" about him.

I emailed him back to put his agreement where the sun doesn't shine.

He then said: "No problem. The agreement is withdrawn"

Also, hereby I invite Mr. Bartell to register on this forum to point out my "lies" , to prove that you see it all wrong and that he is in no way, shape or form what you vote him to be.

Wim
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Postby ton roozeboom » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:18 am

Interesting, Wim, that he admits he has control over the website.

Let's see:

You are a shareholder in his company, he owes you money, he told you to go to hell, and he is instrumental in defamation and libel attempts towards you, your family and mine, which he offers to quit if he gets something back.

Well, in addition to the charges you already have against him, you can now add extortion. I am not you, and he has no debt with me, but I do hope you put the SOB where he belongs: in jail.

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Postby Mark Johansson » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:38 pm

I see on Cybersoup's website that it is endorsed by consumer advocate Judd McllVain. You can click there and go to his own website

http://www.troubleshooterjudd.com/


In the bottom it says it is hosted and designed by Cybersoup.

It's ironic to read this:

"Welcome to Judd McIlvain's Troubleshooter web site. This site serves to inform consumers of their rights and how to avoid being scammed."

This seems to be a man with a good reputation. Is he aware of what's going on with Bartell?

I think he would be pretty embarrased if he would be.

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Postby dankbaar » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:03 pm

Consider this disclaimer:


Online Justice is merely providing space to the originators of stories that we feel, through their telling, subject matter or handling may at some time benefit the general public. As to the allegations in the stories, Online Justice makes no claim as to their truth or falsity. In the interests of justice, we will always ask the opposing party for confirmation of the allegations. In some cases, it may be that the opposing party has chosen not to participate and it will be so noted. Please read our DISCLAIMER before continuing.

And this email from Mr Bartell:


I am now sending every email you have sent me to "contact@onlinejustice.org". I will let you and them work it out.


You would think that "the people that run the website " would have posted a link by now, In the interests of justice, to show their audience this forum discussion.

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