Website with allegations on Wim Dankbaar

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How do you rate the credibility of J. Bartell and his website www.onlinejustice.org ?

he may have a point
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he has the truth on his side
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he is conman of the worst order
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Website with allegations on Wim Dankbaar

Postby dankbaar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:03 am

http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=236

The man behind this website is a person called J. Bartell of a company called www.Cybersoup.com

If you want to assist him with his "investigation" please help him at:

j@cybersoup.com

or + 1 818 718 0489

Wim

PS: Meanwhile I have included a poll question to rate Mr. Bartell's credibility.
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Postby Arthur Overweel » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:53 pm

wow... this is very, very shocking....this person is insane! But by posting this webpage he gets attention, isn't that just the opposite of what you want him to get Wim??
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Postby dankbaar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:10 pm

I don't think anyone would want the kind of attention he is seeking, for it hurts his credibility and reputation, if he has any of that left.

The point is, nobody wants that kind of attention, unless you have a mental problem. That's why he keeps denying he authors the website, despite the proof that the website IP's address is from his server . Additionally, the man is so full of hatred for being sued for fraud and embzezzlement, that in his rage he is dumb enough to admit in emails he is in touch with the "people that run the website".

Me, I would worry if he had made the allegations a little more credible. Like it is now, he is only hurting himself.


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Postby Bob » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:26 pm

That is REALLY disgusting. Wim, like Jim Garrison before him, has angered the people that want to keep the JFK assassanation under wraps. They will utilize any means possible to use character assassination based on horrible lies. This is a Karl Rovian tactic. They can't kill everyone literally, so they use words and lies as weapons to attack their enemies instead. One day these bastards will pay. Wim, I hope you get EVERY penny that bastard has in your lawsuit.
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Response To "Disgusting Website:"

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:12 pm

Dear Mr. Wim Dankbaar, and Fellow JFK Forum Members,

I have tried a few times to check this website.

At my place of work, we have very sophisticated computer things. Understand that I am a White Belt when it comes to computers.

Anyway, because we interact with numerous city, county, state, and federal agencies, we "are on top of stuff," as I am told.

POINT BEING: I was warned to stay away from this site.

That is all that I will say on this subject. Those who know me are aware of some of my sources. Please trust me on this one, O.K. ?

Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
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Postby Gibson DelGiudice » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:24 pm

Is it just me, or is this surprising somehow? The significance, to me, is that J. Bartell has been connected to the Files case before. He was interviewed for "JFK: The Proof" (meaning he could have been a Vernon witness* - can you tell us, Wim?) and eventually withdrew permission for Vernon to use his interviews in the documentary, with Wim's help.

*And thusly he could be acting under coercion
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Postby dankbaar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:35 pm

This has nothing to do with Vernon.

It has to do with misrepresentation and embezzlement. The guy solicited money for something that doesn't exist. It's fraud and I take him to court for it. This is his way of "fighting back". Fraud in reaction to fraud.
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Postby Jim Thompson » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:30 pm

dankbaar wrote:That's why he keeps denying he authors the website, despite the proof that the website IP's address is from his server .


:?: Must be confused here.

CyberSoup
21704 Devonshire #134
Chatsworth, CA 91311
818-718-0489

This business allows an anonymous party who has an email address to set up free a website. Right? So, is (J. Bartell?) the owner of this business (& of this server) & the author of the disgusting website; or, is the author of the disgusting website some anonymous unknown party (Rick?) who is using CyberSoup's (Bartell's?) server? In either case the website would have this business' server's IP. Yes? If Bartell is using his server to send emails to Wim, then the server's IP will be seen in those emails.

If Bartell is the owner of CyberSoup, but NOT the author of the disgusting website, then Bartell must be horrified & embarrassed that his business would sponsor such garbage. In self business interest he would ax the website to preserve CyberSoup's business reputation. Yes?

What do his emails say?

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Postby dankbaar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:07 pm

There is really very little difference in whether he is hosting it for a third party or doing the website himself.

He has admiddted he is in in contact with the people doing the website and hosting it. I firmly believe that's another lie and that's he is making up everything himself . For example, the Mr. X described on this page is Bartell.

http://onlinejustice.org/interface/index.php?action=233

So he doesn't even have the guts to reveal himself.

Last email I received was the one below. I don't think that leaves room for discussion whether he is the guy promoting that website. Does it really make a difference whether he's hiding behind some fictional 3rd party?


----- Original Message -----
From: J Bartell
To: Wim Dankbaar
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Test


In Nov. you will not only jailed for child porn, but you will meet someone that will cause you to lose the money for the JFK project.


Happy days are here again.


Blocked

***************

You, as someone with coherent reasoning, are absolutely right with the quote below. The challenge is: Can you make him understand that?


If Bartell is the owner of CyberSoup, but NOT the author of the disgusting website, then Bartell must be horrified & embarrassed that his business would sponsor such garbage. In self business interest he would ax the website to preserve CyberSoup's business reputation. Yes?
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Support For Mr. Wim Dankbaar, And His Family:

Postby Bruce Patrick Brychek » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:43 pm

Dear Mr. Wim Dankbaar, and Family, and Fellow JFK Forum Supporters,

1. Character Assassination preceeds Actual Assassination.

2. Character Assassination preceeds, and only threatens Legal Action.

I write in support of My Dear Friend, Mr. Wim Dankbaar, His Family, and
Fellow JFK Forum Supporters.

I know, and have met numerous times, and have spent literally hundreds of hours with Wim in Chicago, Illinois. Wim and I have become very close,
and highly trusted friends. Wim has always been 1,000 % straight, and above board with me. Sometimes we debate some points, but always with Mutual Respect.

While I am saddened greatly by these attacks on Wim, and his family, I am not surprised because Wim is accomplishing so much.

All that any Negative Forces can do right now is to try to perform a Character Assassination on Wim. And while this is truly wrong, it is to be expected from the low life, low level methodologies of some people, and/or organizations.

I recently have warned 3 - 4 Fellow JFK Members who have offered to work with me, stating that it may not be in their best interests.

People like Wim, Dan Marvin, Judyth Vary Baker, Jimmy Files, and to a degree even myself, have all been attacked or threatened in one way or another, repeatedly.

I personally admire Wim for posting this disgusting information here on the JFK Forum. While this is certainly hard on Wim, I think that all of us should show some support for Wim, even those that don't always agree with Wim, or the Mainstream of The JFK Forum. We can debate, argue, and offer our own points of view because of Wim Dankbaar.

My personal feeling is that:

AN ATTACK ON WIM DANKBAAR IS AN ATTACK ON ALL OF US, AND THE FREEDOMS OF RESEARCH, AND SPEECH THAT WIM ALLOWS US TO ENJOY ON HIS TOTALLY FREE JFK FORUM. IF YOU HAVE AGREED, OR DISAGREED WITH WIM ON HIS FORUM, IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE WIM CREATED THIS JFK FORUM FOR ALL OF US. AND WE ARE FREE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF WIM.

Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
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Postby dankbaar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:13 pm

Well Bruce, thanks for that, but although I'd like to say otherwise, the truth is that this "attack" does not come from powers that be, but just one individual loon, revengeful about being caught .

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Odd

Postby Jim Thompson » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:38 pm

dankbaar wrote:In Nov. you will not only jailed for child porn, but you will meet someone that will cause you to lose the money for the JFK project.


This is peculiar phrasing in English. Non-native English speaker?

Does Bartell appear in the TV show hosted by Peter R. de Vries of SBS 6 TV? If so where in the show does he show up. I have a DVD of that show.

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Postby Pennyworth » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:38 am

Hello,

How did you come across this? It (Online Justice)doesn't exist on a google search, and the address doesn't exist either???????? :?: Just curious
and also it doesn't come up on a search for wim dankbaar
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Postby dankbaar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:16 am

Jack White posted the link on the Education forum. He doesnt want to say who gave him the link.

You don't find much on Google because the site was just recently erected for one purpose: to try aggrevate me. The other "cases" are just to try and mask that. Bartell does not understand (yet) he has thrown a boomerang.

Yes, he is the guy with the cap and sunglasses in Peter R.

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Weird Stuff

Postby Jim Thompson » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:04 pm

dankbaar wrote:Yes, he is the guy with the cap and sunglasses in Peter R.


Right, so J.B. in Peter R. is J. Bartell.

Is 206.251.235.8 an IP for j@cybersoup.com ?
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