JACK RUBY

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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:02 pm

The trial of Jack Ruby discussed from Rob Clark's show:

http://www.tlgpodcast.com/shows/ep109-t ... -jack-ruby
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:50 pm

Jack Ruby And The JFK Conspiracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_uHWn6p10
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby JDThomas » Mon May 09, 2016 8:21 pm

Interesting Warren Commission document showing how worried they were about what they were digging-up on Ruby:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/H%20Disk/Hoch,%20Paul,%20Warren%20Commission%20Documents/Item%2007-12.pdf
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Tue May 10, 2016 5:09 pm

In early March of 1977 George de Mohrenschildt had confessed to Willem Oltmans that he had indeed known Jack Ruby.In Oltmans private notes we found his description of what had transpired the night de Mohrenschildt told him. Only hours before Oltmans and de Mohrenschildt were to leave for The Netherlands George had begun to waver on would he go to The Netherlands or would he back out and refuse to carry through with his decision to tell the whole truth once and for all. He even at one moment told Willem "we must leave right now on this moment or I will change my mind". Pacing back and forth in the small Bishop College campus apartment George was visible a torn and tortured soul. Even at one point saying “my God I am burning my bridges” "I don't want to go to prison" . As Willem sat quietly watching and listening he told of George's apartment in complete chaos with cloths strewn everywhere half eaten plates of food just left to mold and what looked to be a very large razor sharp sugarcane machete laying within inches of his bed table. Taking two suitcases from a small closet George gathers his belongings from the floor .Stuffing them all in and slams the tops and stops one last time to gaze about his small little sanctuary were he had spent his last days there at Bishop College. Announcing I am ready lets leave now so no one will see me leaving. In Willem Oltmans notes he tells of the feeling that George would not be returning to Dallas. All of de Mohrenschildt's actions pointed at someone who was making arrangements to never return. He had closed out his bank accounts and withdrawn several thousand dollars. He had canceled his medical Insurance. He had cashed in his Bishop College retirement account. He was leaving with $4,600 in $100 traveler checks.
The two men exit the apartment and as they walk out the front door there directly across from George's apart the door opens. Standing inside the door is the strange neighbor lady who George had told had watched his every move and had spied on him from his first moments living there. All three stood motionless staring at each other. And finally Willem say's “do we have something of yours”? In what Willem described as a cold steely eyed stare the middle aged lady finally responded that she was waiting on someone. It was 1 am in the morning. As George and Willem continued there walk to the car the strange lady never moves but continues to stare at both men until the car is started and pulls away. “Now do you see what I had told you about her”? If I enter she is there if I leave she is there. Always the same cold eyed stare never saying a word. I have an ideal she even has tried to poison me in the past George told. My morning milk would be delivered to my front door and on one occasion after drinking the milk I became very ill and that very morning as I got the milk from the front doorway there she was standing and watching. I never drank the milk again.

As the two men drove through the downtown streets of Dallas as they headed for the freeway and on to Houston the side walks were empty and only an occasional taxi could be seen waiting for a call. It was an empty feeling in that car as the two drove on. In a strange way George seemed relieved Willem told. Glancing over his shoulder looking back on several occasions as if wondering was it all finally over .
In his notes Willem recorded it seemed that George was relieved to leave it all behind. The mighty weight of one of the darkest moments one of the darkest events in the United States history had rode squarely on George's shoulders for all these years since that late November day in 1963.The old school master of deception was finally tired.

Under the dark night sky the two men left Dallas until there was nothing left to see but a glow on the Texas horizon. Driving along that lonely Texas highway Willem asks George that if Lee Oswald had been the person who had set up the assassination of President Kennedy he must have been paid a large sum of money. In a very calm and low voice in the darkness of the car George replied “Lee never lived long enough to receive the money”

Feeling the time was right and in the privacy of the car Willem asks George had he known Jack Ruby ? Without hesitation George says “yes I knew Jack Ruby” .Over all these ten years George had always denied knowing Ruby until this night. In an even more startling revelation George says that he had left Haiti and slipped into Dallas only a short time before President Kennedy's assassination had taken place and then had returned to Haiti before the assassination was carried out. In this very unguarded moment there in the car in the dark of the night George began to open up. It was now 4 am .Both men weary and tired stopped at a small highway motel and signed in for the remainder of the night.


Sharing the small motel room together George and Willem laid in the quite of those early morning hours. Leaving us all but to speculate and wonder what must have raced through both men's minds on what would happen next . Would this history changing story that they were about to release unleash a media firestorm throughout America and throughout the world ?
Would this be the final down fall of one of the most mysteries individuals that was connected to the events of November 22,1963.The final crumbling of George de Mohrenschildt .
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby Bob » Tue May 10, 2016 10:50 pm

Tommy Wilkens wrote:In early March of 1977 George de Mohrenschildt had confessed to Willem Oltmans that he had indeed known Jack Ruby.In Oltmans private notes we found his description of what had transpired the night de Mohrenschildt told him. Only hours before Oltmans and de Mohrenschildt were to leave for The Netherlands George had begun to waver on would he go to The Netherlands or would he back out and refuse to carry through with his decision to tell the whole truth once and for all. He even at one moment told Willem "we must leave right now on this moment or I will change my mind". Pacing back and forth in the small Bishop College campus apartment George was visible a torn and tortured soul. Even at one point saying “my God I am burning my bridges” "I don't want to go to prison" . As Willem sat quietly watching and listening he told of George's apartment in complete chaos with cloths strewn everywhere half eaten plates of food just left to mold and what looked to be a very large razor sharp sugarcane machete laying within inches of his bed table. Taking two suitcases from a small closet George gathers his belongings from the floor .Stuffing them all in and slams the tops and stops one last time to gaze about his small little sanctuary were he had spent his last days there at Bishop College. Announcing I am ready lets leave now so no one will see me leaving. In Willem Oltmans notes he tells of the feeling that George would not be returning to Dallas. All of de Mohrenschildt's actions pointed at someone who was making arrangements to never return. He had closed out his bank accounts and withdrawn several thousand dollars. He had canceled his medical Insurance. He had cashed in his Bishop College retirement account. He was leaving with $4,600 in $100 traveler checks.
The two men exit the apartment and as they walk out the front door there directly across from George's apart the door opens. Standing inside the door is the strange neighbor lady who George had told had watched his every move and had spied on him from his first moments living there. All three stood motionless staring at each other. And finally Willem say's “do we have something of yours”? In what Willem described as a cold steely eyed stare the middle aged lady finally responded that she was waiting on someone. It was 1 am in the morning. As George and Willem continued there walk to the car the strange lady never moves but continues to stare at both men until the car is started and pulls away. “Now do you see what I had told you about her”? If I enter she is there if I leave she is there. Always the same cold eyed stare never saying a word. I have an ideal she even has tried to poison me in the past George told. My morning milk would be delivered to my front door and on one occasion after drinking the milk I became very ill and that very morning as I got the milk from the front doorway there she was standing and watching. I never drank the milk again.

As the two men drove through the downtown streets of Dallas as they headed for the freeway and on to Houston the side walks were empty and only an occasional taxi could be seen waiting for a call. It was an empty feeling in that car as the two drove on. In a strange way George seemed relieved Willem told. Glancing over his shoulder looking back on several occasions as if wondering was it all finally over .
In his notes Willem recorded it seemed that George was relieved to leave it all behind. The mighty weight of one of the darkest moments one of the darkest events in the United States history had rode squarely on George's shoulders for all these years since that late November day in 1963.The old school master of deception was finally tired.

Under the dark night sky the two men left Dallas until there was nothing left to see but a glow on the Texas horizon. Driving along that lonely Texas highway Willem asks George that if Lee Oswald had been the person who had set up the assassination of President Kennedy he must have been paid a large sum of money. In a very calm and low voice in the darkness of the car George replied “Lee never lived long enough to receive the money”

Feeling the time was right and in the privacy of the car Willem asks George had he known Jack Ruby ? Without hesitation George says “yes I knew Jack Ruby” .Over all these ten years George had always denied knowing Ruby until this night. In an even more startling revelation George says that he had left Haiti and slipped into Dallas only a short time before President Kennedy's assassination had taken place and then had returned to Haiti before the assassination was carried out. In this very unguarded moment there in the car in the dark of the night George began to open up. It was now 4 am .Both men weary and tired stopped at a small highway motel and signed in for the remainder of the night.


Sharing the small motel room together George and Willem laid in the quite of those early morning hours. Leaving us all but to speculate and wonder what must have raced through both men's minds on what would happen next . Would this history changing story that they were about to release unleash a media firestorm throughout America and throughout the world ?
Would this be the final down fall of one of the most mysteries individuals that was connected to the events of November 22,1963.The final crumbling of George de Mohrenschildt .


Very interesting insight into the mindset of de Mohrenshildt during that period, Tommy! But on March 29, 1977, the very same day Chuck Nicoletti was also murdered, de Mohrenshildt was silenced forever before he could shed some real light on what went down on 11/22/1963.

In terms of knowing Jack Ruby, de Mohrenshildt probably associated with him in Oak Cliff, where both Ruby and LHO lived. Or perhaps at the Carousel Club, where LHO was known to go to as well.
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Wed May 18, 2016 8:09 pm

Carroll Jarnagin: Did he actually witness Ruby with Oswald?

http://www.covertbookreport.com/carroll ... th-oswald/
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby Bob » Wed May 18, 2016 8:43 pm

kenmurray wrote:Carroll Jarnagin: Did he actually witness Ruby with Oswald?

http://www.covertbookreport.com/carroll ... th-oswald/


If Dale Myers :roll: believes that Jarnagin's story is bullshit, than I would submit that Jarnigan's story is more likely to be true. Myers has absolutely no credibility any more regarding the JFK assassination, as Jim DiEugenio describes the inconsistent, incomplete and inaccurate history of Myers in this article:

http://www.ctka.net/reclaim_reviews/bugliosi_myers.html
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Thu May 19, 2016 12:18 am

I have long suspected that Myers was a ghostwriter for Bugliosi's book. :roll:
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby Bob » Thu May 19, 2016 12:33 am

kenmurray wrote:I have long suspected that Myers was a ghostwriter for Bugliosi's book. :roll:


No wonder that doorstop...er...book was so heavy. Between Myers and Bugliosi, that's a lot of bullshit! :shock: :roll: :oops: :lol:
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:28 pm

Jack Ruby's Dog, Or Goodbye Little Sheba:

http://www.ronaldecker.com/rubysdog.html
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:47 pm

One of the worst documentaries ever that came out a few years ago. JFK: The Ruby Connection....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJoywgVkPg
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby kenmurray » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:01 pm

50 years ago Jack Ruby dies of "sudden" cancer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89EKN-0_8sE
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby JDB4JFK » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:52 pm

I've often wonder weather or not Ruby actually died or they just said he did, and faked his death, and flew him to some island to live out his remaining years. Does anyone have pictures of him in a coffin, in the morgue, or at the hospital? We have pictures of Oswald in the morgue dead and in the hospital. I've never seen a Ruby photo dead.

How many people on this forum think he died like they said he did???
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby Tommy Wilkens » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:09 pm

What an interesting question JDB4JFK..I don't know can anyone really answer that question..I have often thought that considering his death sentence had been overturned and he was to receive a new trial but he died before he could go to trial he would have been convicted but no death sentence and probably he would have pulled 3 to 5 years and turned loose.. Old Jack would have been his own main attraction at his strip joints hustling drinks and naked women !!
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Re: JACK RUBY

Postby JDB4JFK » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:38 pm

Yes Tommy, but they didn't want a new trial because at a new trial new evidence comes out!!! Like his lawyers said they had evidence that Oswald was killed at Parkland. What else was Ruby telling his lawyers regarding the assassination? Also I do believe that Garrison wanted to interview Ruby and call him as a witness during his trial. So they either had to kill Jack or fake it and ship him to another country, island or whatever. I mean he was a good soldier who took out the guy they ask him to get rid of, so maybe they faked his death and shipped him to a deserted island where he could be watched, but get to live out the rest of his life.

Just a thought!
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