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ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Dealey Joe » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:15 pm

Robert Francis "Bobby" Kennedy (November 20, 1925 – June 6, 1968), also referred to by his initials RFK, was an American politician, a Democratic senator from New York, and a noted civil rights activist. An icon of modern American liberalism and member of the Kennedy family, he was a younger brother of President John F. Kennedy and acted as one of his advisors during his presidency. From 1961 to 1964, he was the U.S. Attorney General.
Following his brother John's assassination on November 22, 1963, Kennedy continued to serve as Attorney General under President Lyndon B. Johnson for nine months. In September 1964, Kennedy resigned to seek the U.S. Senate seat from New York, which he won in November. Within a few years, he publicly split with Johnson over the Vietnam War.
In March 1968, Kennedy began a campaign for the presidency and was a front-running candidate of the Democratic Party. In the California presidential primary on June 4, Kennedy defeated Eugene McCarthy, a U.S. Senator from Minnesota. Following a brief victory speech delivered just past midnight on June 5 at The Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, Kennedy was shot by Sirhan Sirhan. Mortally wounded, he survived for nearly 26 hours, dying early in the morning of June 6.
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby kenmurray » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:09 pm

I watch this again last night. This is from the "Evidence of Revision" series. I highly recommend those who haven't seen this to watch it. It traces RFK career as Attorney General, his battles with Hoffa and of course his Assassination with footage Im sure many haven't seen anywhere else. It talks about Eugene Thane Cesar, who I believe fired the fatal shot that killed RFK and the girl in the polka dot dress.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/SPCTV/videos/4
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Bob » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:17 pm

June 5th...it stands out in my mind like November 22nd. June 5, 1968...the night Booby was shot. RFK fought bravely from his wounds, but he died the next day. Like the JFK assassination, the RFK assassination was CLEARLY a conspiracy. Especially if one takes a close look. Vincent Bugliosi, the man who claims Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the JFK assassination, said that the RFK assassination was definitely a conspiracy. I heard him say that at a speech at my college. How ironic is that? Here, once again in some compelling evidence as to how this murder was perpetrated.

Some of you have seen or read about Shane O'Sullivan's special about the RFK assassination on the BBC, or perhaps earlier in this forum. Here is the story on it...

Did the CIA kill Bobby Kennedy?


In 1968, Robert Kennedy seemed likely to follow his brother, John, into the White House. Then, on June 6, he was assassinated - apparently by a lone gunman. But Shane O'Sullivan says he has evidence implicating three CIA agents in the murder

Monday November 20, 2006
The Guardian


At first, it seems an open-and-shut case. On June 5 1968, Robert Kennedy wins the California Democratic primary and is set to challenge Richard Nixon for the White House. After midnight, he finishes his victory speech at the Ambassador hotel in Los Angeles and is shaking hands with kitchen staff in a crowded pantry when 24-year-old Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan steps down from a tray-stacker with a "sick, villainous smile" on his face and starts firing at Kennedy with an eight-shot revolver.


As Kennedy lies dying on the pantry floor, Sirhan is arrested as the lone assassin. He carries the motive in his shirt-pocket (a clipping about Kennedy's plans to sell bombers to Israel) and notebooks at his house seem to incriminate him. But the autopsy report suggests Sirhan could not have fired the shots that killed Kennedy. Witnesses place Sirhan's gun several feet in front of Kennedy, but the fatal bullet is fired from one inch behind. And more bullet-holes are found in the pantry than Sirhan's gun can hold, suggesting a second gunman is involved. Sirhan's notebooks show a bizarre series of "automatic writing" - "RFK must die RFK must be killed - Robert F Kennedy must be assassinated before 5 June 68" - and even under hypnosis, he has never been able to remember shooting Kennedy. He recalls "being led into a dark place by a girl who wanted coffee", then being choked by an angry mob. Defence psychiatrists conclude he was in a trance at the time of the shooting and leading psychiatrists suggest he may have be a hypnotically programmed assassin.

Three years ago, I started writing a screenplay about the assassination of Robert Kennedy, caught up in a strange tale of second guns and "Manchurian candidates" (as the movie termed brainwashed assassins). As I researched the case, I uncovered new video and photographic evidence suggesting that three senior CIA operatives were behind the killing. I did not buy the official ending that Sirhan acted alone, and started dipping into the nether-world of "assassination research", crossing paths with David Sanchez Morales, a fearsome Yaqui Indian.

Morales was a legendary figure in CIA covert operations. According to close associate Tom Clines, if you saw Morales walking down the street in a Latin American capital, you knew a coup was about to happen. When the subject of the Kennedys came up in a late-night session with friends in 1973, Morales launched into a tirade that finished: "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard." From this line grew my odyssey into the spook world of the 60s and the secrets behind the death of Bobby Kennedy.

Working from a Cuban photograph of Morales from 1959, I viewed news coverage of the assassination to see if I could spot the man the Cubans called El Gordo - The Fat One. Fifteen minutes in, there he was, standing at the back of the ballroom, in the moments between the end of Kennedy's speech and the shooting. Thirty minutes later, there he was again, casually floating around the darkened ballroom while an associate with a pencil moustache took notes.

The source of early research on Morales was Bradley Ayers, a retired US army captain who had been seconded to JM-Wave, the CIA's Miami base in 1963, to work closely with chief of operations Morales on training Cuban exiles to run sabotage raids on Castro. I tracked Ayers down to a small town in Wisconsin and emailed him stills of Morales and another guy I found suspicious - a man who is pictured entering the ballroom from the direction of the pantry moments after the shooting, clutching a small container to his body, and being waved towards an exit by a Latin associate.

Ayers' response was instant. He was 95% sure that the first figure was Morales and equally sure that the other man was Gordon Campbell, who worked alongside Morales at JM-Wave in 1963 and was Ayers' case officer shortly before the JFK assassination.

I put my script aside and flew to the US to interview key witnesses for a documentary on the unfolding story. In person, Ayers positively identified Morales and Campbell and introduced me to David Rabern, a freelance operative who was part of the Bay of Pigs invasion force in 1961 and was at the Ambassador hotel that night. He did not know Morales and Campbell by name but saw them talking to each other out in the lobby before the shooting and assumed they were Kennedy's security people. He also saw Campbell around police stations three or four times in the year before Robert Kennedy was shot.

This was odd. The CIA had no domestic jurisdiction and Morales was stationed in Laos in 1968. With no secret service protection for presidential candidates in those days, Kennedy was guarded by unarmed Olympic decathlete champion Rafer Johnson and football tackler Rosey Grier - no match for an expert assassination team.

Trawling through microfilm of the police investigation, I found further photographs of Campbell with a third figure, standing centre-stage in the Ambassador hotel hours before the shooting. He looked Greek, and I suspected he might be George Joannides, chief of psychological warfare operations at JM-Wave. Joannides was called out of retirement in 1978 to act as the CIA liaison to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) investigating the death of John F Kennedy.

Ed Lopez, now a respected lawyer at Cornell University, came into close contact with Joann-des when he was a young law student working for the committee. We visit him and show him the photograph and he is 99% sure it is Joannides. When I tell him where it was taken, he is not surprised: "If these guys decided you were bad, they acted on it.

We move to Washington to meet Wayne Smith, a state department official for 25 years who knew Morales well at the US embassy in Havana in 1959-60. When we show him the video in the ballroom, his response is instant: "That's him, that's Morales." He remembers Morales at a cocktail party in Buenos Aires in 1975, saying Kennedy got what was coming to him. Is there a benign explanation for his presence? For Kennedy's security, maybe? Smith laughs. Morales is the last person you would want to protect Bobby Kennedy, he says. He hated the Kennedys, blaming their lack of air support for the failed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

We meet Clines in a hotel room near CIA headquarters. He does not want to go on camera and brings a friend, which is a little unnerving. Clines remembers "Dave" fondly. The guy in the video looks like Morales but it is not him, he says: "This guy is fatter and Morales walked with more of a slouch and his tie down." To me, the guy in the video does walk with a slouch and his tie is down.

Clines says he knew Joannides and Campbell and it is not them either, but he fondly remembers Ayers bringing snakes into JM-Wave to scare the secretaries and seems disturbed at Smith's identification of Morales. He does not discourage our investigation and suggests others who might be able to help. A seasoned journalist cautions that he would expect Clines "to blow smoke", and yet it seems his honest opinion.

As we leave Los Angeles, I tell the immigration officer that I am doing a story on Bobby Kennedy. She has seen the advertisements for the new Emilio Estevez movie about the assassination, Bobby. "Who do you think did it? I think it was the Mob," she says before I can answer.

"I definitely think it was more than one man," I say, discreetly.

Morales died of a heart attack in 1978, weeks before he was to be called before the HSCA. Joannides died in 1990. Campbell may still be out there somewhere, in his early 80s. Given the positive identifications we have gathered on these three, the CIA and the Los Angeles Police Department need to explain what they were doing there. Lopez believes the CIA should call in and interview everybody who knew them, disclose whether they were on a CIA operation and, if not, why they were there that night.

Today would have been Robert Kennedy's 81st birthday. The world is crying out for a compassionate leader like him. If dark forces were behind his elimination, it needs to be investigated.


Now, here is my theory. I think Shane has uncovered some excellent pieces to the puzzle, especially connecting David Morales to the RFK assassination. In case you didn't know, Morales was in JM/Wave and reported to Ted Shackley. Shackley was David Atlee Phillips' (Maurice Bishop) boss at the CIA. Phillips was also Lee Harvey Oswald's controller. Morales was seen by witnesses on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository before the assassination. He also supposedly was the driver of the Rambler station wagon that left the TSBD shortly after the assassination and picked up Oswald according to Roger Craig. Anyway, I definitely believe the CIA was involved in both Kennedy assassinations. Here is part of my theory from a previous post...

The "Second Gun" by Ted Charach is an incredible movie that points the blame to the real RFK assassin...Eugene Thane Cesar. Cesar was the security guard that was directly behind RFK at the time of the shooting. A witness saw Cesar draw his gun and fire. The witness was a reporter who immediately reported this to the television station he worked for. Cesar also worked at Lockheed and had right wing leanings and voted for George Wallace in 1968. He was on record about hating the Kennedys. Yet this man was assigned as a security guard to "protect" RFK. Thomas Naguchi, the L.A. coroner said that all 3 wounds to RFK, including the fatal head shot came from behind and to the right of the Senator. That was precisely where Cesar was. The fatal head wound was fired from a distance of 1-3 inches away from Kennedy's head. Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK and was also always in front of Kennedy. Cesar started firing as soon as the crowd was distracted by Sirhan firing his weapon. Even with all this, the L.A. police never tested Cesar's weapon for being fired that night. Speculation is that Cesar fired a .22 caliber handgun at RFK . Cesar had a .38 caliber handgun in his holster, but also owned a .22 caliber weapon that he pulled from his pocket when Sirhan started shooting. Cesar suspiciously sold this weapon just months AFTER the assassination after lying to police and the FBI that he sold the weapon BEFORE the murder.

I would also like to add another possible theory as to what really happened that night. My good friend Michael Calder is working on a new book about the RFK assassination. Michael has brought to light a very interesting theory. Just like there were Lee Harvey Oswald doubles in Dallas, there was also at least one Sirhan double at the Ambassador Hotel the night RFK was shot. At least one man, Evan Phillip Freed, saw a man who looked like Sirhan...but was NOT the real Sirhan...shoot RFK. I will post his affidavit below. I still think Cesar was involved, but perhaps he was used to help get the man in position to kill RFK.
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Bob » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:22 pm

The Evan Freed affidavit...

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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby kenmurray » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:57 pm

Lisa Pease talks about the RFK Assassination on BOR recently:

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2011.html
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Bob » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:48 pm

Some recent news about Sirhan Sirhan...

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=8447784
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Dealey Joe » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:00 pm

Rare RFK Assassination Interviews‏
by Bob » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:50 pm

An early glimpse from the June 9th show...from Len Osanic and Black Op Radio...

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2011.html
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby kenmurray » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:00 am

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RFK Assassination Multiple shooters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llo0WMJ9 ... re=related
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby katisha » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:27 am

Maybe the word's spreading about RFK. This:

http://www.theage.com.au/world/kennedy- ... 1odft.html

was in today's Melbourne Age. It's the first time I've ever seen a reference in the Australian press to anything but the 'official' versions of the JFK and RFK murders.
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby kenmurray » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:52 pm

katisha wrote:Maybe the word's spreading about RFK. This:

http://www.theage.com.au/world/kennedy- ... 1odft.html

was in today's Melbourne Age. It's the first time I've ever seen a reference in the Australian press to anything but the 'official' versions of the JFK and RFK murders.


That's good to hear Katisha. 8)
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Tom Bigg » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:17 pm

There was a program I watched on RFK's assassination recently, I think it was on the History channel which brought up some of the other theories on this, in a non-dismissive way, we all know how good the professional equivocaters are in throwing doubt and accusations about anything smacking of "conspiracy", lone nuts are so convenient--that he/she was crazy satisfies the reason of those who want to be seen as normal. The mental illness accusation coupled with paranoia, fixation on a political leader, an agenda, etc., becomes the rationale for the establishment media.

I wonder what the surviving Kennedys think about those responsible for the killing of their illustrious family members. With their wealth, you would think they would hire the smartest gumshoes to get to the bottom of the conspiracies, or maybe they have and they don't want to create unpredictable political consequences....

The animosity of the Kennedys to the Bush family is pretty clear. I picked up a book by RFK, Jr.. This is a damning article that was well received. RFK, Jr. delivered it to Republican audiences and was given standing ovations:

This was the opening line: "George W. Bush will go down in history as America's worst environmental president."

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1120-01.htm
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RFK Assassination: Lone Shooter Shot Dead

Postby kenmurray » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:13 am

New Analysis Of RFK Assassination Video Casts Cabal Of Setup Men:

http://www.indiegogo.com/rfk?mid=5534
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Bob » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:24 pm

RFK Assassination As It Happened (Part 1 of 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRy2R10t ... re=related
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Re: ROBERT FRANCIS KENNEDY

Postby Bob » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:45 pm

Note Thane Cesar's clip on tie which is right next to RFK, as he lies mortally wounded. RFK pulled off the tie as he fell to the floor.

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