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The Assassins

Postby Alec » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:27 am

There are a lot of intelligent people on this message board, who have done plenty of grueling research on the JFK Assassination. I was reading an article on Lucien Sarti (not necessarily important) and I became curious as to who the people of this forum actually think did the shootings and where.

I am interested in hearing what everyone believes. It can be something as simple as a short list of who and where.
(EXAMPLE: 6th Floor Depository - Lee Harvey Oswald)
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Davyjones » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:11 am

I hope the intelligent people vote,Alec!
In the meantime I will...........TSBD,Mac Wallace and The Raven(Tippits killer)
Nicoletti in the Dal Tex and J Files on the GK.
Oswald was due at the window but did not show,so a panic shot to get the show started by The Raven.
Shot one ,theTeague shot,merely a getgo signal.
A quicker than he would have liked shot from Nicoletti hits JFK in top back,followed quickly by a TSB shot that hit Connally.
The head shot from Nicoletti at almost the same moment as J Files bullet hits from the GK.
This all sounds like 3 or 4 shots to the bewildered onlookers.
I dont discount a 45 from the pergola area among this mayhem,but I am suprised it missed,unless it was Honest Joe by his station wagon! He dont look all that competant to me from his photo.I am unsure about the 45 shot,big time.
Hope that gets the ball rolling Alec
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Shooters

Postby Phil Dragoo » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:58 am

Alec

Lee Oswald was tested by the Dallas Police for gunshot residue on his cheek, and their paraffin test's negative result was confirmed by the Atomic Energy Commission's Oak Ridge facility. This was suppressed until the release of records under the JFK Act of 1992 per the notes of Gerald D. McKnight in Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why.

Robert Harris has a number of youtubes of his research leading him to believe two suppressed shots were fired from a third-floor window of the Dal-Tex Building which hit the pavement as the limo made the turn from Houston onto Elm. No doubt the Tague shot came from this building. Jimmy Files puts Nicoletti there. The presence of Jim Braden would point toward an outfit shooter at that location--who no doubt was responsible for the first head shot, to the right of the external occipital protuberance, a split-second before the frontal headshot.

Jimmy Files has made a compelling case for his fence shot with Fireball, and the lateral x-ray shows metal fragments in a high arc emanating from an inshoot above the right ocular orbit, the temple wound seen by Thom Robinson and others.

Perhaps another shooter in the west sixth floor of the Depository, with a spotter according to witnesses.

Lee Bowers said he saw two men shooting from the fence. Jimmy says he was the only one shooting at that location, but we must factor in Jimmy's code, that he repeatedly says he would not ever give up a living person.

E. Howard Hunt puts down in his diagram on page 123 of Saint John Hunt's BOND OF SECRECY “French Gunman/Grassy Knoll”; on the opposite page (122) are two pictures of Lucien Sarti captioned “The shooter from the grassy knoll brought in by Bill Harvey and Cord Myer from the French underworlds; died in a shootout with Mexican police.” Because Hunt would never give up the Agency, I suggest we may safely dismiss his “confession” to his son as a deflection of blame from CIA to LBJ, from the actual shooters to a glamorous celebrity.
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Davyjones » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:16 pm

Thats Files 2...Sarti 1 so far Alec Where do you stand?
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Alec » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:15 am

Mr. Alec is here, haha. But Phil and Davy I really enjoyed reading what you thought the scenario to be.

What do I think?

Well, I am not too sure as to what I think. Perhaps a shooter on the County Records Building. I am surprised that no one mentioned David Morales or Richard Cain or even Rosselli.
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Pennyworth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:21 pm

Jack Binion, Becky Binion Behnen and her son Benny Behnen are assassins
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Dealey Joe » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:48 am

PP are these people still in Vegas?
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Bob » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:08 am

We know Files and Chuck Nicoletti were two of the shooters. There is a good chance that David Morales, Richard Cain and possibly Mac Wallace were in the Texas School Book Depository and were shooters/spotters. Marshall Caifano was also most likely a shooter. Other possibilities include the participation of Charles Harrelson and "Milwaukee" Phil Alderisio. Files saw a lot of his CIA buddies in Dealey Plaza that day. Files saw Cain, Frank Sturgis and also Ed Lansdale for instance. In addition, myself and others believe that Orlando Bosch was "walkie talkie man". Bosch's buddy Luis Posada Carriles could have been a shooter on the Records Building.
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Shane » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:48 pm

Charles Nicholetti (Dal Tex building). My question here is, I have heard there was a shooter on the third floor, but wasn't there also a shell found on the roof of the building by a man working on the tile up there?

Perhaps Malcolm Wallace in the Depository window with David Morales as his spotter. Wallace's fingerprint was found on a box in the Depository. Morales, in my opinion, is the "black man" witnesses claimed to have seen pacing in front of the winow prior to the motorcade arriving.

James Files on the Grassy Knoll positioned by the tree. I wanted to follow up on a comment discounting Files as a shooter because he was a chaufer. This was apparently a pretty important role in the Mafia. Al Capone was once a chaufer.

And then I have received information the French assassin (Lucien Sarti) was a shooter as well. But if Sarti was gunned down, why does Files protect him...if he was in fact stationed on the fence line?

I have heard enough about Richard Cain to believe he was involved...as a shooter, I don't know.

My belief is that the shots were cordinated and each time Kennedy was hit the next shooter's sequenced bullet hit Connally.

I have heard the scenarios for where the shooters were in building surrounding Dealy Plaza, I feel confident Files was under the tree, and I have also heard the witness account of another team of shooters along the fence line, too.

What I would like verified is, did Tosh Plumlee say he heard a shot come from behind him? I have watched both "I Shot JFK" and "The Grassy Knoll" and I just can't remember him saying that. I'm certain I missed it because others on this forum said they heard him state this.

Finally, Penny, you mention Jack Binion, Becky Binion Behnem, and Benny Behnem. I have never heard these names associated with being assassins. I'm interested. Would you please elaborate on their role.
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Ted Binion Murder Case

Postby kenmurray » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:36 pm

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Binion Background

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The Tangled Web

Postby kenmurray » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:52 pm

Has anybody read this book?

https://market.android.com/details?id=book-QbsJVNv5244C


Michael Cain talks about his brother Richard Cain and about the book The Tangled Web:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 621885458#
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:31 pm

Shane wrote:Charles Nicholetti (Dal Tex building). My question here is, I have heard there was a shooter on the third floor, but wasn't there also a shell found on the roof of the building by a man working on the tile up there?

Perhaps Malcolm Wallace in the Depository window with David Morales as his spotter. Wallace's fingerprint was found on a box in the Depository. Morales, in my opinion, is the "black man" witnesses claimed to have seen pacing in front of the window prior to the motorcade arriving.

James Files on the Grassy Knoll positioned by the tree. I wanted to follow up on a comment discounting Files as a shooter because he was a chauffeur. This was apparently a pretty important role in the Mafia. Al Capone was once a chauffeur.

And then I have received information the French assassin (Lucien Sarti) was a shooter as well. But if Sarti was gunned down, why does Files protect him...if he was in fact stationed on the fence line?

I have heard enough about Richard Cain to believe he was involved...as a shooter, I don't know.

My belief is that the shots were coordinated and each time Kennedy was hit the next shooter's sequenced bullet hit Connally.

I have heard the scenarios for where the shooters were in building surrounding Dealy Plaza, I feel confident Files was under the tree, and I have also heard the witness account of another team of shooters along the fence line, too.

What I would like verified is, did Tosh Plumlee say he heard a shot come from behind him? I have watched both "I Shot JFK" and "The Grassy Knoll" and I just can't remember him saying that. I'm certain I missed it because others on this forum said they heard him state this.

Finally, Penny, you mention Jack Binion, Becky Binion Behnem, and Benny Behnem. I have never heard these names associated with being assassins. I'm interested. Would you please elaborate on their role.


Shane if we listen to all the hearsay there would have been a shooter every 10 ft. around Dealey plaza. Of course you know what is intriguing me is where the .45 came from Roger Craig indicated was what was found in the grass across Elm St.

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The Binions were Dallas connected in the Gambling, Gangs, and Rackets.
R.D.Mathews of Dallas and Las Vegas and who is of Great interest to me was a Binion man.
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Shane » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:02 pm

lol. You are absolutely right, Joe.
What intrigues me about the .45 shooter (and what makes it so difficult for me to accept and understand) is that in such a cordinated attack that left very little to chance, some guy is standing in a parking lot shooting a .45 pistol. The chances of this just being an actual lone nut seem laughable, but this jerkoff shooting from the hip in a cordinated team effort seems even more implausable. I would appreciate any theory a forum member cares to share.
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Re: The Assassins

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:29 pm

I know but where did it come from.
Or was Craig mistaken? I don't think so.

It is amazing how little importance researchers today give Craig.
Actually he was never paid any attention.
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