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Osama Bin Laden: The Movie

Postby kenmurray » Fri May 06, 2011 7:20 pm

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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

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More Fake Photos Emerge In Bin Laden Farce: ... farce.html
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Bin Laden Home Videos Released

Postby kenmurray » Sun May 08, 2011 12:39 pm

Why Does The Terrorist Kingpin Look Better Than He Did In 2001? :shock: ... -2001.html
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby tom jeffers » Sun May 08, 2011 7:47 pm

I think this is pretty profound and I agree whole heartedly. I cannot believe that the average american believed that OBL was alive after it has been reported by trusted voices for years that OBL died in December 2001. There used to be a website in arabic that was a memorial to him. The only thing I do not understand is why Bush jr let Obama get the credit for catching him. That just goes to show you that there are no demoRATS or republicTURDS anymore. They belong to the same team, the one preaching one world government. And whoever that guy is, none of us have ever heard of him. Powerful people work behind the scences. As the wizard of oz said: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"

After Pat's birthdayOctober 24, 2006|By Kevin Tillman

Editor's note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother, Pat Tillman, in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin was discharged in 2005.

It is Pat's birthday on Nov. 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military. He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How, once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people. How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice ... until we got out.

Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can't be called a civil war even though it is. Something like that.

Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few "bad apples" in the military.

Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a 5-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping bumper stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It's interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a 5-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.

Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.

Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.

Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.

Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.

Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated.

Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution is tolerated.

Somehow suspension of habeas corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

Somehow torture is tolerated.

Somehow lying is tolerated.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma and nonsense.

Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared and distrusted countries in the world.

Somehow being politically informed, diligent and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance.

Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.

Somehow this is tolerated.

Somehow nobody is accountable for this.

In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people. So don't be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely, they will come to know that "somehow" was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites.

Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a voice. People still can take action. It can start after Pat's birthday.
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Generalissimo Franco still dead

Postby Phil Dragoo » Sun May 08, 2011 8:19 pm


Zbigniew Brzezinski and Robert Gates co-wrote the Council on Foreign Relations paper (2004) Iran: Time for a New Approach.

Gates, former DCI appointed by GHWB, SecDef under GWB, retained by BHO.

Did you hear, Brzezinski said last year in defense of BHO not supporting Iran democracy advocates opposing the Islamist regime, “Not an opportune time to destabilize Iran.”

As you imply, operators from the power elite thrust their hands into different puppets for the amusement of we the floor peasants at the Globe Theater.

Bin Laden is dead. Is alive. Is killed in a gutsy raid.

Oceania has always been allied with Eurasia and at war with Eastasia.

And the three realms battle within Orwell's quadrilateral—which, ironically, includes Afghanistan.
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby Dealey Joe » Sun May 08, 2011 9:58 pm

The ex soldiers story hits me right in the gut, how true and how sad.

One thing I want to add, one of the reasons some of this is able to happen is
because we are acting as a Democracy. A Democracy is minority Rule which we actually are now
but our country is set up as a REPUBLIC. Individual rights protected by individual responsibility.
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby Jsnow915 » Tue May 10, 2011 12:47 pm

on the money Joe!....we kept getting told we're a democracy and the truth is..."And to the REPUBLIC (not democracy),for which it stands"
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby Bob » Wed May 11, 2011 1:00 am

Jesse Ventura's take on this whole debacle... ... -raid.html
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby bob franklin » Wed May 11, 2011 6:15 am

The whole thing smelled from the first announcement. I find myself in agreement with Mike Ellwood - terrorism is terrorism, which ever side engages in it. Killing this man without due process places us on a par with him, or even lower. This assumes that he even was OBL. It stinks of propaganda.
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby JDThomas » Wed May 11, 2011 8:11 am

Habeas corpus - produce the body

- just the small matter of a centuries-old principle upon which our nations were built that has been cast-aside.

Please will everyone, when they have a moment, spend a few minutes listening again to JFK's secret societies speech and apply what he says about the world we live in TODAY.

What is the point of ensuring the survival our nation(s) if our values do not survive with it?
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Re: Breaking News: Bin Laden Is Dead

Postby tom jeffers » Wed May 11, 2011 2:12 pm

When I watched the tillman story, I was touched. Most people do not know the whole story. Pat had already served one tour of duty in Iraq and the government was willing to give him an honerable discharge so he could play football again but he and his brother declined because they signed up for 3 years and they were going to honor their agreements. In fact his brother finished his 3 year commitment after Pat was killed, that is what I call integrity. Pat's family received a silver star originally but later refused it because they said Pat would not want to receive a medal for something he had not done. The government's story said Pat saved many of his platoon's men while under fire. What actually happened was his platoon separated into two units and half went around a hill while Pat and a couple other guys went over the hill. When the soldiers came around the hill, they spotted the soldiers coming over the hill and started shooting at them. Pat's last words were "I'm Pat fucking Tillman, why are you shooting at us?" Later his body was said to have been hit by fire less than 10 yards away which meant whoever fired at him, knew what they were firing at. Pat's brother was just coming over the hill and ducked for cover and was not told that Pat was hit by friendly fire. In fact, soldiers were threatened not to tell. I really reccommend you watch the tillman story. If you cannot get it, email me with your address and I will burn you a copy.
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Osama Bin Laden 1957-2001

Postby kenmurray » Thu May 12, 2011 7:18 pm

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Re: Osama Bin Laden 1957-2001

Postby Mike Ellwood » Fri May 13, 2011 9:49 am

kenmurray wrote:

Excellent article. More coherent than Alex Jones' (with all due respect) ranting.

Here is a link to the specific article, since presumably the blog link will show other articles as the blog gets updated: ... -2001.html
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Bin Laden was a Porno Freak

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