Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

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Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:25 pm

For years Officer Tippet has been portrayed as an innocent cop in the wrong place at the wrong time- but is this true?

It has been reported that Tippet knew Ruby and frequented his club often.

Could it be that Tippet was involved?

Could he even had been a potential patsy should Oswald slip away?

Or was he supposed to hit Oswald and refused to do it?

Somehow Tippet was more than just an unlucky cop that afternoon.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Slav » Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:14 pm

Thayer Waldo told the Warren Commission that Butler had for many years provided him with important information about the Dallas police department. Waldo also contacted Mark Lane and informed him that he had discovered tha[b][b]t Jack Ruby, J. D. Tippet and Bernard Weismann[/b][/b] had a meeting at the Carousel Club eight days before the assassination. Waldo added that he was too scared to publish the story and other information that he had about the assassination. Lane introduced Waldo to Dorothy Kilgallen. Her article on the Tippit, Ruby and Weissman meeting appeared on the front page of the Journal American.


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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:23 am

Tippit was involved in what was going on in Oak Cliff.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:45 am

Was it Tippet in the cop car that tooted his horn for Oswald in front of his boarding house?

If not who? This is a key piece of info, if it actually happened.

Wasn't it squad car 207? How hard is it to find out who was in car 207 on that day?

What was Tippet's car number that day?

With all of the interest being at the TSBD, could there really be 2 squad cars roaming the Oak Cliff section of Dallas that afternoon? Just cruising around?

Tippet seems to be one of the great unsolved mysteries of this case.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:32 am

I don't think we can know what really happened 11/22/63 untill we know,what was going on in Oak Cliff.
There were several possible players there.

my .02
a cop named Olsen
his girl friend Kathy Kay- Ruby stripper
Earlene Roberts - can't believe anything she says, ops got to her.
Landlord Mrs. Johnson and her sister who was in cahoots with Jack Ruby.
Johnson's sister and Mary Bledsoe and no doubt others were housing Cubans.
Shoe salesman Johnny Brewer.
nothing is really known about Tippet's friend and partner.
Mary's son Porter Bledsoe

Gary Marlow who I think is the one who rode the bus and cab and the one
who was in Oswald's room and supposedly killed Tippit.

William Ray Dobkins who I think was the guy at the shooting range and car lot and zipping around Oak Cliff in Tippit's brother in laws car.

The last known contact of Tippit was 8th and Lancaster.
Seems a little odd the Olsen work there as a guard
his girl friend Kathy Kay lived there.
Johnny Calvin Brewer lived there.-Johnny got a nice promotion the day before he testified to the commission

On and on

Tippit's job was to take LHO to Redbird Airport
He waited across the Houston St. viaduct but LHO did not show.
None of this is provable but possible and likely.
Things got screwed up.

I would love to see a picture of Mary Bledsoe.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Slav » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:01 am

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the man that shot tippet standing besides james files
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:38 pm

That is what we have been old.
The original picture of Marlow that files says was of the man who killed Tippit
does not resemble this picture to me?

I was asked why i think Marlow was the guy on the bus and cab.
For one thing he is the one who would possibly do that.
He was sent to get LHO so he would likely be stalking him.
Bus driver and cab driver memory of exactly who was in their vehicle is
questionable.
Marlo would go 3 or 4 blocks past the rooming house and walk back not LHO
I don’t think height has a lot to do with it.
How do we for sure know Marlow is 6'4"?

Like I said I cannot prove this but It is very likely and I think probable.

And possibly I should say Tippits killer instead of Gary Marlow?
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:51 pm

Fundamental question- why was Tippet killed?
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:56 pm

He was trying to protect LHO.
That is who Tippits killer was actually looking for as was Tippit.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:58 pm

Let me get this straight- Tippet was trying to protect LHO? Someone was trying to kill LHO and Tippet got in the way?

Pls provide background.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:25 pm

Tippit knew Oswald very well.
Tippit was always in North Oak Cliff even though his beat was in South Oak Cliff. Tippit and LHO had coffee together often at a restaurant a couple blocks from Oswald's Beckley Street apartment.
My calculations are the Tippit was to pick up LHO on the South end of Houston St. viaduct either preplanned or LHO had contacted him that day that things had gone wrong.

Tippit waited and LHO did not show up so he went wild running around Oak Cliff looking for LHO.

He was on Zang Blvd, made a hurried phone call at the record shop, left there in a hurry made a youey hooey up to tenth and down to Patton where he ran across his killer whom he knew or knew of. when he found the the guy was hunting LHO to silence him he got out of his car to deal with the man and BANG.
Also LHO had gotten a ride in the Rambler Roger Craig and saw went about 3 miles down I35 to Jack Ruby's apartment.

Jack was gone so LHO headed back toward his apartment and ran across the Tippit shooting and headed on down to the theater and by them cops and sirens were everywhere so he ducked into the theater. He was now looking for a way to Redbird.

Tippit was to take LHO to Redbird airport to meet David Farrie who was taking him to Mexico.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:13 pm

If we assume LHO was the pre-planned patsy, why does ANYONE want to protect him and get him out of town?

In your Redbird scenario, there is no patsy and the police are forced to turn over every rock to find the killer.

This is NOT what LBJ, the Mob or Hoover had in mind.
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Dealey Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:21 pm

OK, just the way I see it happening.
To me the only way this makes sense is that the assassination had been called off or LHO would have been silenced right there in the TSBD.
I am sure LHO did not volunteer to be the patsy
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Alex Hidell » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:32 pm

To be sure- Oswald did not volunteer to be the patsy.

But to be sure, the guys who did pull the triggers needed a pasty and needed one badly.

If we assume Ruby was in on the plot from the start and Tippet knew both Oswald and Ruby, it is interesting to try and figure out what Tippet's role was and what he could have done to get himself killed.

I alwasy thought it was pre-planned to pick up Oswald in the theater. He was probably sent there to supposedly meet a getaway driver and then the cops were tipped off and it was assumed Oswald would fire his gun and would be guuned down in the process. When the gun didn't go off, all bets were off.

This scenario still doesn't account for Tippet's murder, hmmmmm?

Was Tippet asked to kill LHO, refused and then disposed of?
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Re: Tippet's Involvement in Assassination

Postby Deborah » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:29 pm

Dealey Joe wrote:That is what we have been old.
The original picture of Marlow that files says was of the man who killed Tippit
does not resemble this picture to me?

I was asked why i think Marlow was the guy on the bus and cab.
For one thing he is the one who would possibly do that.
He was sent to get LHO so he would likely be stalking him.
Bus driver and cab driver memory of exactly who was in their vehicle is
questionable.
Marlo would go 3 or 4 blocks past the rooming house and walk back not LHO
I don’t think height has a lot to do with it.
How do we for sure know Marlow is 6'4"?

Like I said I cannot prove this but It is very likely and I think probable.

And possibly I should say Tippits killer instead of Gary Marlow?


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Do you give any credence to Mrs. Clemmons testimony that there were Two men at the scene of the Tippit shooting? She said the short, stocky man was the one who did the shooting, reloading once. The other tall lean man was not the shooter and was waved off by the shooter of Tippit according to Clemmons. Gary Marlowe is tall and lean, not short and stocky.
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