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Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby bobwc » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:40 pm

Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
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Postby Joost » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:46 pm

I saw the program. It was great! Peter answered a lot of other questions from viewers and "experts" that came in after the 2,5 hour program from some weeks ago. When they tested the fireball a weapon expert explained that with a scope, at 200 meters, it would be accurate within 1 or 2 cm. Files was just 25 meters away when he shot JFK.

Yesterday evening Peter was guest in a talkshow from Robert Jensen. Jensen just played devil's advocate saying Files is just a nut looking for attention, but Peter really impressed me with his answers and the passion he showed about the Files story. He made a very good point saying that in Holland the people and the media would never accept crucial evidence being kept classified for 60 years if our prime-minister was assasinated. Just made me realize again what a strange country the USA is...

Anyway, in the Netherlands the Files story has gotten al the media attention it can get. I hope it will get serious attention in others, especially the USA.
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Postby Paul van Beek » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:47 pm

Hugh Urdy "The Black Ace." Was Files inspired by this man,to leave a shell behind?
The man who opens the tomb when it is found
And who does not close it immediately,
Evil will come to him
That no one will be able to prove.
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Jim Harwood » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:15 am

bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Paul van Beek » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:43 pm

Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.
The man who opens the tomb when it is found
And who does not close it immediately,
Evil will come to him
That no one will be able to prove.
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Jim Harwood » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:07 pm

Paul van Beek wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.


The crime itself was never investigated therefore there are no leads to follow. Even you can only write things like "it proves that it was a well chosen weapon with good firepower."
Now that may be a fact but that doesnt prove James Files fired any shots at JFK let alone the fatal shot.

We dont even have an legitimate autopsy in this crime. And it's the fact that the crime itself was never investigated that allows for 40 years of speculation, bravado, provocation and assumption to run rampant.

I dont know if James Files is telling the truth or not but proving that a certain weapon is fast, accurate and powerful along with proving you can make a tooth imprint in the ejected shell is a far cry from any proof.
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Paul van Beek » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:02 pm

Jim Harwood wrote:
Paul van Beek wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.


The crime itself was never investigated therefore there are no leads to follow. Even you can only write things like "it proves that it was a well chosen weapon with good firepower."
Now that may be a fact but that doesnt prove James Files fired any shots at JFK let alone the fatal shot.

We dont even have an legitimate autopsy in this crime. And it's the fact that the crime itself was never investigated that allows for 40 years of speculation, bravado, provocation and assumption to run rampant.

I dont know if James Files is telling the truth or not but proving that a certain weapon is fast, accurate and powerful along with proving you can make a tooth imprint in the ejected shell is a far cry from any proof.
As u say urself.... "Its a fact that the crime itself was never investigated." Witnesses disapeard and where scared to tell there story's or the truth... Others told story's that was not even part of some truth.. Doesn't that say a lot about whats going on?And when a govermant let thing's or people disapear or does not investigate things as it should get investigated,well.... What would u think about such a govermant?

Isn't it wired... That when some one wants to investigate the storry of mr Files,ends up in a hospital and exedently gets the wrong medication?
Why do we see so much exedently things and mysterieus disapearings just arround one crime seen,can u give a good explenation for that?
The man who opens the tomb when it is found
And who does not close it immediately,
Evil will come to him
That no one will be able to prove.
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Mark Johansson » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:01 pm

Jim Harwood wrote:
Paul van Beek wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.


The crime itself was never investigated therefore there are no leads to follow. Even you can only write things like "it proves that it was a well chosen weapon with good firepower."
Now that may be a fact but that doesnt prove James Files fired any shots at JFK let alone the fatal shot.

We dont even have an legitimate autopsy in this crime. And it's the fact that the crime itself was never investigated that allows for 40 years of speculation, bravado, provocation and assumption to run rampant.

I dont know if James Files is telling the truth or not but proving that a certain weapon is fast, accurate and powerful along with proving you can make a tooth imprint in the ejected shell is a far cry from any proof.


Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Jim Harwood » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:07 pm

Mark Johansson wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
Paul van Beek wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.


The crime itself was never investigated therefore there are no leads to follow. Even you can only write things like "it proves that it was a well chosen weapon with good firepower."
Now that may be a fact but that doesnt prove James Files fired any shots at JFK let alone the fatal shot.

We dont even have an legitimate autopsy in this crime. And it's the fact that the crime itself was never investigated that allows for 40 years of speculation, bravado, provocation and assumption to run rampant.

I dont know if James Files is telling the truth or not but proving that a certain weapon is fast, accurate and powerful along with proving you can make a tooth imprint in the ejected shell is a far cry from any proof.


Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

Johansson


Mark, thanks but you cant put the horse before the cart. How can anyone establish what type of weapon or ammunition was used to assassinate President Kennedy?

One of the reasons James Files can publicly confess is because there is no way to convict him in any event. On what basis could you convict him? His confession? There just isnt any evidence or leads to follow because the murder was never officially investigated.

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Postby Davyjones » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:31 pm

The reason people like me read these posts is in part because no proper investigation is ongoing into new issues like the Files confession. I remain on the fence as to his contribution but it would not take a lot of time for the US to check him out?Whats to hide?
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Johan van Leeuwen » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:32 pm

Mark Johansson wrote:Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

Johansson


I also enjoyed the program very much. It was made very clear in the program why the test was done: after the first program on jfk many people had responded via email. Among those, people who said that it was impossible to bite the shell since it should have been too hot and too hard. What better than to do the test yourself! And clearly it was proven that the shell was not too hot nor too hard to bite. So that is that. What it implicates further is not the issue here. Only that it was not impossible.

But Mark, I think that the recoil of the gun was quite strong don't you? I wondered why they did not say anything about that. James Files claims that he saw certain things through the scope of the gun after the shot did he not? (the part about that he saw the brains fly around etc) Unfortunately this was not examined. Why not shoot a melon or something and see through the scope?

For those who have not seen the program, you can see Peter R de Vries fire the fireball on the promotion video of the program at 00:29 sec.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/video/promo06-06-06.wmv
When Peter fires the gun the scopy is not on it. But if it where, would it be possible to look through it after the shot?
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Mark Johansson » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:57 pm

Johan van Leeuwen wrote:
Mark Johansson wrote:Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

Johansson



But Mark, I think that the recoil of the gun was quite strong don't you? I wondered why they did not say anything about that. James Files claims that he saw certain things through the scope of the gun after the shot did he not? (the part about that he saw the brains fly around etc) Unfortunately this was not examined. Why not shoot a melon or something and see through the scope?


I got the privilege to test fire a Remington Fireball myself and felt different recoils each time. The man, who instructed me, told me that the recoil depends on how much gunpowder the bullet consist of. The brand De Vries used could be different from what Files used in 1963.
Although the recoil which are shown on the trailer isn’t powerful according to me. I think Peter easily could have seen the target through the scope.

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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Mark Johansson » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:00 pm

Jim Harwood wrote:
Mark Johansson wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
Paul van Beek wrote:
Jim Harwood wrote:
bobwc wrote:Tonight, on national television in the Netherlands, Wim once again appeared on the nationally acclaimed program, Peter R. de Vries. This time, Mr. Dankbaar put to rest, permanently, one of the lies perpertrated by disinfo agants regarding Mr. Files and the Fireball. Peter live fired the weapon, ejected the shell and Wim immediately picked it up, (in less than a second) and put it in his mouth and bit down on it, leaving an almost exact indentation that was on the bullet shell that fired the fatal headshot to JFK.
Of course, a lot of us on the Forum have known about the Fireball and it's accuracy for a long time. Mark Johansson has fired one. The shell is not hot as it is ejected.
I cannot post on other Forums because I have been banned because of my support for Wim and Jimmy. So if someone can post this on one of those CIA sponsored sites, I would appreciate it. Of course, I am sure we are being monitored here by 2 of our "ananymous friends" , so I am sure that there will be some disinfo about the program before the morning.
Way to go, Wim!!!!!!
bobwc


Without any evidence in the case of JFK how would anyone know how many bullets struck the President, where they struck him,the caliber of bullet, etc.
Youre leaping from one assumption to the other. The only thing Wim proved is that you could "bite down" on the cartridge shell and leave an impression.

Jim H.
Nha.... It also proofs that it is a well choosen weapon.It has enough fire power and accuracy to do the job.It is also easy to carry and hide when needed.
The position Files took from the front was one of the best choises,aldo there where some risks to it also.(Manny cars attrack people)
And when watching tru a scoop u do not see people come from the back.
On the other hand on the opposite hill u had the same situation only with less cover,and well on the bridge its just not done...
Good things to hear in the story of Files,are things like the shell marks.It shows him as some one that was once young,that would take some risks to make a name.And the remarks he made,on the words that Nicoletti said in the car,shows that he is not someone that did just came up with this story to make some bucks.


The crime itself was never investigated therefore there are no leads to follow. Even you can only write things like "it proves that it was a well chosen weapon with good firepower."
Now that may be a fact but that doesnt prove James Files fired any shots at JFK let alone the fatal shot.

We dont even have an legitimate autopsy in this crime. And it's the fact that the crime itself was never investigated that allows for 40 years of speculation, bravado, provocation and assumption to run rampant.

I dont know if James Files is telling the truth or not but proving that a certain weapon is fast, accurate and powerful along with proving you can make a tooth imprint in the ejected shell is a far cry from any proof.


Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

Johansson


Mark, thanks but you cant put the horse before the cart. How can anyone establish what type of weapon or ammunition was used to assassinate President Kennedy?

Jim H.


Files stated that the one he used was modified and had a reinforced barrel. Chauncey Holt stated in 1992 that when he was at Antelope Valley (place where they were running guns) a man wanted to modify a Remington Fireball. He wanted to replace the 222 barrel with a 14â€
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Re: Wim=1000 Opposition=0

Postby Johan van Leeuwen » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:13 pm

Mark Johansson wrote:
Johan van Leeuwen wrote:
Mark Johansson wrote:Wim wanted to put an end to all the criticism regarding the Remington Fireball. Wim proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the Fireball did not kick like a mule and the casing was not too hot to bite down on after it had been ejected from the pistol.

Johansson



But Mark, I think that the recoil of the gun was quite strong don't you? I wondered why they did not say anything about that. James Files claims that he saw certain things through the scope of the gun after the shot did he not? (the part about that he saw the brains fly around etc) Unfortunately this was not examined. Why not shoot a melon or something and see through the scope?


I got the privilege to test fire a Remington Fireball myself and felt different recoils each time. The man, who instructed me, told me that the recoil depends on how much gunpowder the bullet consist of. The brand De Vries used could be different from what Files used in 1963.
Although the recoil which are shown on the trailer isn’t powerful according to me. I think Peter easily could have seen the target through the scope.

Johansson


I looked again on the dvd at the part of the confession where Files talks about the recoil and the fact that many people have critisized him on his claim of seeing all the things he saw through the scope. Only now I noticed that he not says that the weapon has no recoil but he says that the recoil is not so great that you cannot hold the weapon down. Peter R the Vries was not trying to hold the weapon down when he fired it. He is holding it rather clumsy :) and he let it just bounce up.
So I now think that before it is tested if the weapon can be hold down while looking through the scope etc it can not be said in advance that it is not possible.

Having that said I still regret that Wim and Peter did not shoot a melon or something while looking through the scope and holding the weapon down etc. A missed chance to end the debate on that issue as well.
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Mellon

Postby Jim Harwood » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:30 pm

What would the shooting of a mellon accomplish? You could shoot a mellon with a bow and arrow. Would that prove William Tell killed President Kennedy?
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